He did get acknowledged in the match programme.This may have carried more'weight' with the many fans who weren't even supporters at that timeIn some ways probabley appropriate level of responce for this scenario.

What a strange set of values you have. Showing respect in your view is "politically-motivated grief"

Just out of interest KS, what was it that made you go over to the dark side?

My bet is that your bitterness started when the Aussies cancelled the 10 quid assisted passage scheme. Not only did you 'miss the boat' but as you don't pass muster on the immigration requirements it has left your dreams of watching the NRL in the hands of that right wing friend of yours Mr Rupert Murdoch.



Alternative suggestions welcome...

People were turning out on Bassett high street years before tv cameras up. The town's always had a stong military association, it was nothing political.

The key here is that the media did turn up and they stayed 24/7, turning the place into a venue for the continual fetishisation of grief. Of course it's political... it's part of a political agenda designed to sway public opinion in the direction of undying and unquestioning loyalty to the brave cause whilst ignoring the important issues of what we are doing in Afghanistan in the first place and whether that loss of life is a price worth paying.

Would it be considered appropriate to hold a minutes silence for Mick Shaw in Wootton Bassett? Of course not. So why should a minutes silence be considered appropriate for dead soldiers at Headingley prior to a game of Rugby League?

Its a shame that minute silences are being replaced more and more with minutes applause (granted more a football thing). It just doesn't have the same feeling of respect when you know that the only reason your clapping instead of standing silently is because a minority of idiots can't be trusted to have the decency to keep quiet for 60 seconds.

That's football for you.

And it pains me immensely to say I kind of agree with Keith Swiftcorn on this one.

Agree with this.

Again, the increasing frequency of these manufactured (media-driven) circus of grief type soap operas merely serve to distort and dilute the real meaning and appropriate context behind what people or which events ought to be worthy of commemoration and respect. We certainly live in a post-Diana, fashion icon, faux grief world these days and I have no intention of participating in any of it.

For which you occassionally have an aoplogy prised out of you!:
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I note you haven't seen fit to do likewise to the family of the fallen soldier you excluded.

I have absolutely no problem with standing quietly during the one, or two minutes of Remembrance. We honour the dead with the sound of silence.

Of course, the Heads of various Churches would dispute that, and say that the Christian response to tragedy should be prayer. I reckon if I were to pray, it would be for enlightenment, to set free those sad people, currently wallowing in their own blissful ignorance and negativity.

If Jamie Mathiou suddenly died would you expect a minute's silence? - he made 3 times the number of appearances for Leeds that Mick Shaw did.

A minutes silence should be reserved for true legends of the club otherwise you are saying Mick Shaw is of equal importance to Leeds that Lewis Jones is?

Some perspective is required here.