i do sometimes think the video ref refuses to look at the full picture, if he was asked to see if the ball was grounded before the line then thats all he looks for

in the nfl if a play is reviewed EVERYTHING is looked at and a decision made and perhaps that needs to be the same for super league

So let me get this right. The Dixon try was, in your opinion, wrongly ruled out? So therefore, at the next vaguely diffciult decision Saints should be awarded a try?

No no no no no.

This just makes it worse. Thaler thinks he got the first one wrong so just 'gives' a try for the second one to even it up!

If Leeds were to score a lucky try, lets say a kick that comes off a defender into a Leeds players arms, should we then let the other team score to 'even itself out'?

Two wrongs dont make a right.

First, as others have said, if Webb deals with the kick through when he has chance this thread never happens.

Other than that, there is an issue with the referral system here, can the video ref only look at what he's asked to look at, does anyone know? If so, it was probably a try for me, as any micr-knock-on before hand would have been too pedantic for my liking. However, had he looked at the wider situation, the ball was dead.

On the Dixon no-try, I thought not giving it was one of those over-pedantic video ref decisions. I'sd have given that one. A'd as soon not see tries ruled out for offside against people having no influence on the play.

The knock on is debatable, the above is beyond dispute.

Video refs: get rid for me. I can stomach errors by the on field ref, however wrong, but when the VRs continue to get decisions of this magnitude wrong, what's the point in employing them?

Very true. What the feck was he playing at, not touching it down? He was never going to prevent a drop out with the tackler that close on wet ground.

Agree entirely with this for me.

Biggest dissapointment was the second try. Having over ruled his own decision by listenting to the touch judge for the 1st one, he then goes and ignores him when the touch judge correctly points out the offside for the scrum leading to the second try.

The silly thing about Webbs leave, was that he had already touched it, meaning it would have been a drop out anyway. Had he not touched it, I could sort of see why he did it, but we would have felt the ball hit him, and should have then made it dead

Poor decision by Ian Smith, only he knows how much it might have been influenced by the Dixon decision but I suspect it played a part. This is an official who's had his issues with Saints in the past don't forget.

It would help if you knew who the video referee was before making a statement like that.

Apologies - I honestly don't know why Ian Smith popped into my head there. Clearly I need to cut back on the Benylin for this cold.

I thought both Dixon and Makinson knocked on but what annoyed me more was the blatant Wheeler offside ignored which lead to Shentons scrum try.
I'm just glad we did enough to nulify any more imncompetance by officials in a Final.

Good stuff.

I don't think it was ignored as such by the officials but it was missed by whoever Bentham asked for a ruling from.

I don't know if the question was aimed at just the touch judge or whether he was seeking advise from the VR but either none was forthcoming or the answer he received was 'play on.'

Terrible call that one.

I've seen both Sky versions (HD and 3D) and the BBC highlights and can't recall any of them picking it either. If correct, poor analysis from the combined eyesight and RL knowledge of messers Hemmings, Stephenson, Carney, Clarke, Arthur, McRae, McDermott, O'Connor, Woods and Noble.

At the time I thought the decision was one of the worst I've seen.

20 minutes later I didn't give 2 fecks