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| Quote thebloodbath="thebloodbath"I have already blasted our poor forwards overall. That point has been made.
I am highlighting Ian Kirke because after the Hull game a few people were raving about him once they saw his stats. In the Hull game he surprised everyone because he did a forwards job. A job he should be doing week-in-week-out. A job he can sustain week-in-week-out. He got sympathy pats on the back which is cringe-worthy. So a bit of reality was needed to be brought to light about the Gentle Giant, Ian Kirke.'"
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however baileys stats going forward are usually poor too. With him and cross both tackling type props we have no go forward from the front rowers, peacock apart. We missed delaney in the pack big style on friday because he really went forward well
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| Quote thebloodbath="thebloodbath"I am highlighting Ian Kirke because after the Hull game a few people were raving about him once they saw his stats.'"
I thought Kirke generally was receiving praise for his performance rather than his stats.
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| Quote tvoc="tvoc"I thought Kirke generally was receiving praise for his performance rather than his stats.
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People noted a better performances pre stats been up.
Post stats been put up - that's when the heavy pats on the back started.
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It's as if you're suggesting people were/are reluctant to post an opinion on a performance until the stats are known.
I never realised Opta were so influential.
I have to say I hadn't noticed Kirke's performance being elevated by the stats (there was certainly no evidence of that on the stats thread viewtopic.php?f=17&t=483796) and I think it had much more to do with the actual stint he'd put in and McDermott's post match comments.
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It's as if you're suggesting people were/are reluctant to post an opinion on a performance until the stats are known.
I never realised Opta were so influential.
I have to say I hadn't noticed Kirke's performance being elevated by the stats (there was certainly no evidence of that on the stats thread viewtopic.php?f=17&t=483796) and I think it had much more to do with the actual stint he'd put in and McDermott's post match comments.
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| Quote tvoc="tvoc"
His stats were fairly unremarkable.'"
yet still a massive step up from his norm. |
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Looking at average meters made per game for our prop forwards last year, Bailey wasn't that much better than Kirke. An uncomfortable truth for the Bailey fanclub?
Peacock: 152.6
Leuluai: 92.0
Eastwood: 88.5
Bailey: 65.8
Kirke: 50.5
Anyone who thinks Peacock wouldn't have made a difference in the play-offs and CC final is deluded.
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| Quote Exeter Rhino="Exeter Rhino"Looking at average meters made per game for our prop forwards last year, Bailey wasn't that much better than Kirke. An uncomfortable truth for the Bailey fanclub?'"
Bailey has many strings to his bow does Ian Kirke? |
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| Quote thebloodbath="thebloodbath"Bailey has many strings to his bow does Ian Kirke?'"
Please elaborate.
Can't include:
1. Winds opposition up
2. Is TMFMISL
3. Has 4 GF rings
4. Stats don't tell you everything
statements backed up by verifiable facts/stats will be accepted not you or any one else's opinion. |
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| Quote G1="G1"yet still a massive step up from his norm.'"
Three SL Rings suggest otherwise!  |
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| Quote Exeter Rhino="Exeter Rhino"Looking at average meters made per game for our prop forwards last year, Bailey wasn't that much better than Kirke. An uncomfortable truth for the Bailey fanclub?
Peacock: 152.6
Leuluai: 92.0
Eastwood: 88.5
Bailey: 65.8
Kirke: 50.5
Anyone who thinks Peacock wouldn't have made a difference in the play-offs and CC final is deluded.'"
Have you factored in game time or number of carries when calculating these stats? |
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| Quote Clearwing="Clearwing"Have you factored in game time or number of carries when calculating these stats?'"
No. Here goes though (m/carry):
Eastwood 7.58
Peacock: 7.48
Leuluai: 7.41
Bailey 6.24
Kirke 6.09
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