basically players player has become mos. The award Barrett got the year roby won mos. the award Barrett should have walked.

I considered Hall unlucky last year and put him forward for a MOS candidate for the reasons I think Richards is.

Ignorant opposition fans dismissed it saying he was just a try scorer and his tries were laid on a plate by Senior. They were wrong. He did so much more for his team, as Richards had done this year.

I am not saying Westwood or Graham are not worthy candidates, they are. Are you saying Richards isn't a worthy candidate?

I'm saying Richards isn't a worthy candidate for MOS. But perhaps I am a bit of a traditionist there. I consider the forwards or the very creative halfbacks to be more of a MOS player, than I do backs.

I have no problem in Richards been given player of the year, for his achievements in the points he has scored, whether they are handed on a plate for him or not. But I don't think points scored for a winger and especially a goal kicking one, should play any part in been awarded MOS.

then we must disagree for the reasons I have stated above.

Whilst I am happy to disagree like grown ups I really don't think you've properly considered the points I made above about Richard's contribution at all.

You clearly have a preconceived notion that a winger shouldn't be MOS and, therefore, are not approaching it with an open mind.

I've considered your points and viewed those stats against other wingers, and taking the goals and kicking in play out of the question, it is pretty much a level playing field. Therefore the conclusion is that his potential accolade is coming from points scored.



I don't actually dispute that and I am quite open about it as explained above. But who got MOS in 2004? I can't remember, but Vaikona had a far superior season for the Bulls that year than Richards has had this year. I think a winger scoring a record amount of tries for the competition and setting ones up for others, I could understand a lot more for MOS.

Like I said, I am not taking away Richards achievements this year, I would certainly rather see my team not play against him than to play against him, but I just don't see him as deserving for MOS against others in the comp.

I think Danny McGuire should be a serious conternder for MOS. He has been constently very good in an injury hit out of sorts Leeds side and has almost single handedly kept us in the running for silverwear this year. Richards has also had a fine season but he has had the great benefit of playing behind the most consistent form side in SL. He is a great finisher and kicker but has been on the end of a conveyor belt of scoring chances. So my vote goes to Danny for producing the goods all on his own week in and week out.

Exactly! Its his work rate that most people will miss but the players wont!!

IIRC it was Farrell which was a joke of a decision as it should have been Diskin, Mcguire or Vainikolo (who I assume you meant)

I didn't see that one coming from a mile away.

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andy farrell won mos because of the ''phatom of the opera'' incident when he played with a broken nose againt leeds at the jjb.

In that game leeds had about 10 consecutive sets on wigans lline and couldn't score, wigan defended like the world would end if we scored.

andy farrell carried the wigan team that season, playing at prop. He carried them to the eliminator.

To claim his selection as MOS was a joke and that matt diskin (s) should have won it is laughable.

Farrell performances that season typified everything a MOS winner should be.

farrell got it on the last few games of the season, esp the leeds game. he also only played prop in the last few games.
diskin was the catalyst for a rampant leeds side that broke all records.
G1 is correct, it was a joke decision

Team Pld W D L PF PA PD Pts
1 Leeds Rhinos 28 24 2 2 1037 443 +594 50
2 Bradford Bulls 28 20 1 7 918 565 +353 41
3 Hull F.C. 28 19 2 7 843 478 +365 40
4 Wigan Warriors 28 17 4 7 736 558 +178 38
5 St Helens 28 17 1 10 821 662 +159 35
6 Wakefield Trinity Wildcats 28 15 0 13 788 662 +126 30
7 Huddersfield Giants 28 12 0 16 518 757 -239 24
8 Warrington Wolves 28 10 1 17 700 715 -15 21
9 Salford City Reds 28 8 0 20 507 828 -321 16
10 London Broncos 28 7 1 21 561 968 -407 15
11 Widnes Vikings 28 7 0 21 466 850 -384 14
12 Castleford Tigers 28 6 0 22 515 924 -409 12

diksin was part of an all rampant leeds team. Mcguire was rampant. Bai was rampant. Senio was blockbusting. even f*cking mcdonald looked decent. the whole team was awesome.

Farrell single handedly carried wigan into the playoffs that year, they got blitzed by injury at stages in the season, he gave them the go forward, the leadership, he helped create alot of their points.

It was never a ''joke decision''. G1 is wrong.