A lot of delusion on here isn’t there!? I would’ve been hugely disappointed to have lost to Leeds as I think your halves are second worst to only Wakefields halves and you pack really isn’t up to much - plus you have no depth.

Guy who keeps banging on about man for man, there’s probably only 4 players I would take from your starting 13.

As for Myler making a difference, he’s shocking under the highball and it doesn’t matter who Abdul comes up against - his bombs are horrible to take. I was actually disappointed Myler didn’t play as I don’t rate him in the slightest.

Fusatua (spelling) has never and will never be better than Ryan Hall who would still walk in to any starting 13 in the division.

Reality is - you’re now very much a mid level club who massively over achieved last year, but keep telling yourselves different if it strokes your egos….

Oh, and the score line absolutely flattered Leeds fwiw.

Im still a fan of Smith, but think he's maybe teetering the wrong side of the line separating fresh/new ideas and ignoring the principals of successful rugby at the moment. The slow, connected line speed was literally the worst tactic we could of used in those conditions with that kicker last night, we practically invited them into putting bombs up with the ammount of ground we surrenderd.

Feel like he's attempting to reinvent the wheel at the minute, the signs were there in Pre season, with what appeared to be way too much unnecessary piddling about with positions etc and has carried over into our season to date imo.

Really feel for Sam Walters aswel, if the teams picked on form, he should not of been dropped for the Cas game or last night.

If the scoreline flattered Leeds that means your not as good as you think you are, if were that bad and you only managed to outscore us by one try and every one of your trys came from absolute howlers, what does that say about your team?

We’ll be fine, enjoy your cup final next weekend, it will probably be the closest you get to one for a while yet

So why didn't you win by more then?

Truth hurts doesn’t it lads. Ta ta.

After the Catalans game Smith said he wanted to back up from the performance and gain some consistency.....so what happened during the weeks prep? Also thought Johnson added spark last week why was he dropped, people say Smith is a maverick but atm he's more of a chancer its games like last night that shows a teams carracter fight and team spirit all sadly lacking.

Yawn

Sums him up when you're main organising player is getting praise for defence and nowt else.

This reads like we got mullered last night, it was 3 trys to teo and 2 to 1 in the second half, team spirit and fight were there last night, it was errors that killed us.

The way dome of our supporters are turning on Smith is s bit embarrassing IMO

Two try assists as well

Agees. Players were trying too, just one off those nights where nothing went for us……

You would think we had just got absolutely smashed.
It was 20-12 and we gave away a ridiculously easy try at the start of the second half.
It was awful weather, the ruck was painfully slow, we had a fullback making his SL debut, our winger went off early, we are playing away, that is a horrible ground to play at, they have probably the best kicker in SL, some of our back 3 had absolutely awful performances. And with all that we lost by 8 points.
I see some points about line speed and passive defence. Our defence isn’t passive when we are defending close to opposition line. Just watched some NRL this morning there wasn’t super fast line speed. Just because saints defend like that is doesn’t mean it’s the only way to defend. Players clearly instructed to apply line speed depending on field position, maybe it’s just the players aren’t good enough to do what is being asked?
Secondly, Leeds are not going to be consistent, the way they play is not set up for it. Could Hull get near a GF, no they couldn’t, because they play super structured, apply pressure and score from being close to the line. That’s how a number of teams play and the other teams play it much better. Could Leeds get to a GF, yes they could. Why - because they play differently, far more off the cuff, hot and cold and they can win one off games. Now i know a lot won’t like that but it’s true. It’s going to be entertaining, up and down and there will be awful performances along the way. Just going to have to accept that is where we are and that is the team we are at the moment.

We've had too many of 'those nights' in the opening stages to this season warrington, cas, Wakefield first half, Hull, cats first half really irratic, KR. it is worrying because playing badly is more the norm so far accounting for about 5 of the 7 games we've played. Martin last week was the embodiment of leeds this year, sublime one minute, ridiculous the next.

Great post