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| Quote: batleyrhino "The biggest loss for us in terms of a player is probably Myler. You could argue Watkins as he's the captain and star man, but the halfback should be the one who organises the team and plays. Cas have had Gale missing for ages and haven't had a settled Stand off all season, whilst Hull FC have had Sneyd and Kelly missing for large parts too. All teams have had forwards missing.
I get that the forwards that have been missing at Leeds, which is obviously a concern, but the squads are usually set up to expect more injuries in the forwards anyway. What has been exposed is our lack of quality in depth, this is the weakest overall Leeds squad for many years.'"
Put Watkins in the team against saints, and catalans and we win, Newman is a great prospect but he was targetted for his defensive capabilities, that’s not knocking the lad as he is bound to miss a few tackles but centre in such an important position defensive wise.
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| Quote: christopher "Put Watkins in the team against saints, and catalans and we win, Newman is a great prospect but he was targetted for his defensive capabilities, that’s not knocking the lad as he is bound to miss a few tackles but centre in such an important position defensive wise.'"
Yet he was there when Wire destroyed us & we blew leads v Wigan & Hull so its not that certain at all.
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| Quote: batleyrhino "The biggest loss for us in terms of a player is probably Myler. You could argue Watkins as he's the captain and star man, but the halfback should be the one who organises the team and plays. Cas have had Gale missing for ages and haven't had a settled Stand off all season, whilst Hull FC have had Sneyd and Kelly missing for large parts too. All teams have had forwards missing.
I get that the forwards that have been missing at Leeds, which is obviously a concern, but the squads are usually set up to expect more injuries in the forwards anyway. What has been exposed is our lack of quality in depth, this is the weakest overall Leeds squad for many years.'"
You can set a squad up to miss more forwards but with the number of injuries we've had week after week any team would be found lacking in quality of depth.
Saying all teams have forwards missing is neither here nor there - have all teams being missing most of their props and half their second rowers all season?
Again, who has had an injury list comparable to ours and is still picking up results?
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| Quote: Ex-Swarcliffe Rhino "If you are going to play kids, then you need some good seasoned pro's in the team to keep them bubbling along. We have like 12 of those out on the treatment table. We are badly lacking in leadership at the moment, this is what is costing us close games.'"
But of those 12, only 3 in Myler, Ward, and Watkins would actually make a difference. Possibly four if you include Peteru. The games we have lost, we would have still lost with the others that are missing in. Banging on about missing players is just a desperate attempt by the minority to try justify something that simply is not justified. To put politely its head in the sand.
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| Quote: Gotcha "But of those 12, only 3 in Myler, Ward, and Watkins would actually make a difference. Possibly four if you include Peteru. The games we have lost, we would have still lost with the others that are missing in. Banging on about missing players is just a desperate attempt by the minority to try justify something that simply is not justified. To put politely its head in the sand.'"
No its looking at all the factors for the reason we are in poor form not just blindly blaming the coach for everything.
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| injuries, and the positions are a factor. however with so many forwards out why turn each game into a forward battle with one man rugby? took the coach 7 games to change it. make excuses all you like, and you will, he beats a lot of responsibility.
other sides cope because the organise, become hard to beat and change there game. we don't. or didn't until saints
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| Quote: tad rhino "injuries, and the positions are a factor. however with so many forwards out why turn each game into a forward battle with one man rugby? took the coach 7 games to change it. make excuses all you like, and you will, he beats a lot of responsibility.
other sides cope because the organise, become hard to beat and change there game. we don't. or didn't until saints'"
you cant go sideways without going forwards first, and we've been missing our props most of the season.
no suprise to me that once we got Garbutt back and Oledzki has started stepping up we look far more dangerous in attack.
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| Whatever way you look at it, we shouldn't be losing to Huddersfield and Catalans at home, especially when both are directly battling with us to avoid the drop. Inbetween those two poop games we run the runaway league leaders to within a hair of victory playing good rugby to boot with the very same injuries so what is going on? Even with a few injuries its not acceptable for a club of our stature to get relegated twice in three seasons especially in a league that isn't that great a standard.
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| Quote: Biff Tannen "Whatever way you look at it, we shouldn't be losing to Huddersfield and Catalans at home, especially when both are directly battling with us to avoid the drop. Inbetween those two poop games we run the runaway league leaders to within a hair of victory playing good rugby to boot. Even with a few injuries its not acceptable for a club of our stature to get relegated twice in three seasons especially in a league that isn't that great a standard.'"
Relegated ![Smile icon_smile.gif](images/smilies//icon_smile.gif) when did that happen?
Also we aren’t in the middle 8s just yet, time will tell.
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| Too much said on injuries. Yes we've loads missing but all Mac has waffled on about is missing his big men. Well garbutt oledski cuthbertson mullally holroyd played last night so that's put to bed. The current missing players only watkins myler singo ward make any difference as the rest are championship players or like jjb ablett Delaney and ready for the knackers yard.
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| Quote: taxi4stevesmith "Too much said on injuries. Yes we've loads missing but all Mac has waffled on about is missing his big men. Well garbutt oledski cuthbertson mullally holroyd played last night so that's put to bed. The current missing players only watkins myler singo ward make any difference as the rest are championship players or like jjb ablett Delaney and ready for the knackers yard.'"
What only a world class centre, an actual half back an experienced prop and our vice captain.
You almost seem to be agreeing that we are and have been missing players that can make a difference. Thats what ive been saying all along.
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| all is good with the world - we just have a few injuries. These tinted glasses are not working for me !
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| How many games this season have we had Garbutt, Singleton, Cuthbertson and Mullally in the 17?
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| Quote: Homer Simpson "all is good with the world - we just have a few injuries. These tinted glasses are not working for me !'"
Again who has said all is good with the world? we are in a hole, but just because some of us don't think we should sack the coach immediately and bin off half the team doesn't mean with think our position at the moment is good, there can be a middle ground
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| Quote: christopher "Again who has said all is good with the world? we are in a hole, but just because some of us don't think we should sack the coach immediately and bin off half the team doesn't mean with think our position at the moment is good, there can be a middle ground'"
Agreed. For me that middle ground is that we sign 4 good quality first choice players for next season (Stand Off, Prop, 2 x Second Row), and play a much more exciting brand of rugby. If BMD can facilitate this style I'm perfectly fine with him staying, however I have my doubts if he can do this.
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