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| Quote: El Diablo "You can't have your £5. I spent it on Richie Eyres. Sorry.'"
You were robbed.
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| Quote: G1 "I don't know. Maybe in adhering to the salary cap and winning trophies are the major differences.'"
And they're both positives but in terms of squad building I doubt Leeds' plans are any different to Wigan's. The difference maybe that when Wigan identify a problem position they tend to fill it even if that costs money.
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| Quote: El Diablo "He has also delivered (or helped to deliver) a sustainable business model and financial stability off the field and one of the most successful periods in the club's history on the field.
Hetherington Out!'"
Hetherington's job is (or should be) to maximise the clubs potential and that includes on the field. Ultimately he will be judged on results not whether the club made a huge profit.
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| Quote: tvoc "And they're both positives but in terms of squad building I doubt Leeds' plans are any different to Wigan's. The difference maybe that when Wigan identify a problem position they tend to fill it even if that costs money.'"
Wigan don't have enough money to fill all their problem positions.
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| Quote: batleyrhino "Wigan don't have enough money to fill all their problem positions.'"
Which positions are their problem ones?
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| Quote: tvoc "Which positions are their problem ones?'"
Judging by the league position, they start at 1 and end at coach. Seriously I think they need major surgery before they can be consistently competitive, and pretty much all over the park.
It's interesting that they are still in the cup, as this probably represents the best opportunity for success for teams who lack consistency and talent.
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| Quote: batleyrhino "Judging by the league position, they start at 1 and end at coach. Seriously I think they need major surgery before they can be consistently competitive, and pretty much all over the park.
It's interesting that they are still in the cup, as this probably represents the best opportunity for success for teams who lack consistency and talent.'"
So which players are their problems?
On paper Wigan have as capable a squad as any in SL and on their day they walloped St Helens.
Getting consistent performances out of them is where their problem lies and that's more an attitude and coaching issue for mine.
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982.jpg [quote:1pqtnbtj]Every player in our squad could probably earn more money with another club. But they prefer to sacrifice a few extra quid in their back pocket to share special memories. And playing at a place like Old Trafford on a night like this makes it all worthwhile.[/quote:1pqtnbtj]
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| Quote: tvoc "Hetherington's job is (or should be) to maximise the clubs potential and that includes on the field. Ultimately he will be judged on results not whether the club made a huge profit.'" Not by his shareholders but, regardless, he's delivered on all fronts during the last 5 years and he was building towards that for about four or five years before then.
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| Quote: G1 "Not by his shareholders but, regardless, he's delivered on all fronts during the last 5 years and he was building towards that for about four or five years before then.'"
One of which would be himself?
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982.jpg [quote:1pqtnbtj]Every player in our squad could probably earn more money with another club. But they prefer to sacrifice a few extra quid in their back pocket to share special memories. And playing at a place like Old Trafford on a night like this makes it all worthwhile.[/quote:1pqtnbtj]
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| Quote: tvoc "One of which would be himself?'" I think so, but certainly not the major one.
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| Quote: G1 "I think so, but certainly not the major one.'"
Is Caddick in it to make money really?
He seems happy to bank roll the union club as a hobby and I wouldn't have thought anyone really takes on the ownership of a sports club in order to make a fortune.
I doubt his tolerance to losses would be as high with RL but I wonder if its as much about the kudos as the brass.
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| Quote: G1 "I think so, but certainly not the major one.'"
I'm a big admirer of Gary Hetherington, always have been. From his wholehearted efforts as a player, to his formation of a player's union and starting a club from nothing in South Yorkshire while selling double glazing and running fund raising marathons to make signings. But at times I think he acts as if he is still the Chairman at the Eagles rather than running what should be the biggest club in the ESL.
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| Quote: tvoc "Hetherington's job is (or should be) to maximise the clubs potential and that includes on the field. Ultimately he will be judged on results not whether the club made a huge profit.'"
Which is why no-one remembers Alf Davis ... Nothing much to show for it in the trophy cabinet, but 'We've got the best lottery in the league'
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| Good old Alf and his "pop in for a chat and a cuppa" speech...
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| Quote: tvoc "So which players are their problems?
On paper Wigan have as capable a squad as any in SL and on their day they walloped St Helens.
Getting consistent performances out of them is where their problem lies and that's more an attitude and coaching issue for mine.'"
If the attitude of the players is a problem then surely there is something wrong with Wigan's recruitment?
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