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Quote: Puig-Aubert "Ok, thanks for clearing that up

Ah right, seeing as i've mae the same points in every post, i'd say that's consistent, as for credibility, what do you think this is? I thought it was just a forum where people post their opinions, so get over yourself. Nothing i've said is getting through your thick skull so, in a bit.

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Quote: Fishsta "My question is, and this is returning to Wheels' first point... how much worse can a kick to the head actually possibly be before the 1 game ban "standard" is reached? Does someone actually have to lose an eye / get their nose-bone smashed into their brain / kicked in the temple / have their windpipe crushed / miss 3 weeks through concussion before the 1 game ban is employed?

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I highlighted the bit about kick to the head. When you phrase it like that you assume that the kick to the head was the intention and it was done carelessly - ie. a careless kick to the head. Senior was not kicking anyone in the head, he was doing what practically all player do in a game every tackle- moving his feet around to free of tacklers. If RL players went around kicking each other in the head then all the dire consequences you list may eventually happen (although perhaps not the ones from Hollywood films like getting their nose bones smashed into their brains). It was a penalty - end of.

Oh, and concussion is seldom a reason for a missed game. In Union it's an automatic 3 game rest. In League players are assessed and compared to their normal reactions - and I can't remember too many players ever missing a game because they were concussed the week before. You are also unlikely to get concussion from a stray boot. I've been knocked out by knees, shoulders but most often by the ground itself.

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But what I don't understand (to those posters saying something needs to be done) is that something has been done .... this time.

Senior has had to front the full disciplinary panel to explain his actions and as a result he came away £300 lighter in his back pocket.

What more would you have liked to have seen for an accidental consequence of a careless action?

Let's wait and see what happens to the next player penalised for trying to regain his feet quickly to play the ball.

Quote: DHM "Oh, and concussion is seldom a reason for a missed game. '"


That's correct in the modern game.

The use of the cognitive test seems to have removed the mandatory absence that was once commonplace.

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Quote: ToffeeLady "Ah right, seeing as i've mae the same points in every post, i'd say that's consistent, as for credibility, what do you think this is? I thought it was just a forum where people post their opinions, so get over yourself. Nothing i've said is getting through your thick skull so, in a bit.'"



Its your hypocritical failure to make these points in the past when Wigan players were accused that is the issue not whether your whining has been consistent on this thread.

That lack of consistency removes any credibility your blubbing about Senior might otherwise have had.

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Quote: Puig-Aubert "Its your hypocritical failure to make these points in the past when Wigan players were accused that is the issue not whether your whining has been consistent on this thread.

That lack of consistency removes any credibility your blubbing about Senior might otherwise have had.'"

Sorrycouldn't resist commenting back to this excuse for a comeback...
I wasn't on these boards when the last incidents happened...so how was a i supposed to make those points that would make me consistent?
i said i was shocked when Sam didn't get a ban when you asked about that, so hows that not being 'consistent' about it.

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Quote: ToffeeLady "Sorrycouldn't resist commenting back to this excuse for a comeback...
I wasn't on these boards when the last incidents happened...so how was a i supposed to make those points that would make me consistent?
i said i was shocked when Sam didn't get a ban when you asked about that, so hows that not being 'consistent' about it.'"

Just out of curiosity will you be posting these opinions when j.tompkins seriously hurts someone with his knees in the tackle as is becoming a trait of his ,or is it just "part of the game" like some of the other one eyed Pies think?

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Quote: ToffeeLady "Sorrycouldn't resist commenting back to this excuse for a comeback...
I wasn't on these boards when the last incidents happened...so how was a i supposed to make those points that would make me consistent?
i said i was shocked when Sam didn't get a ban when you asked about that, so hows that not being 'consistent' about it.'"


So, in summary, you're a one eyed hypocritical sh*t stirrer?

Thanks for the clarification.

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Quote: rhinoms "Just out of curiosity will you be posting these opinions when j.tompkins seriously hurts someone with his knees in the tackle as is becoming a trait of his ,or is it just "part of the game" like some of the other one eyed Pies think?'"


If somebodies injured by it then i'm not likely to be singing his praises am i, i wouldn't defend him no, and i wouldn't have a go at somebody who came on slating him for it.
As for being a sh*t stirrer, what is this a school playground? The fact 'Puig-Aubert' that you think i'm one eyed after what i've said with regards to Tomkins kicking out and Coley's ban proves your stupidity.

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Quote: ToffeeLady "If somebodies injured by it then i'm not likely to be singing his praises am i, i wouldn't defend him no, and i wouldn't have a go at somebody who came on slating him for it.
As for being a sh*t stirrer, what is this a school playground? The fact 'Puig-Aubert' that you think i'm one eyed after what i've said with regards to Tomkins kicking out and Coley's ban proves your stupidity.'"



I'd have thought your hypocrisy would easilly outweigh that.

I mean, when it was Mathers and Tomkins did you go around telling people how terrible it was that hey weren't banned?

Thought not.

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Quote: Puig-Aubert "I'd have thought your hypocrisy would easilly outweigh that.

I mean, when it was Mathers and Tomkins did you go around telling people how terrible it was that hey weren't banned?

Thought not.'"

icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif you're awful attempt to take the p*ss is boring me now.Bye.

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Quote: ToffeeLady "icon_lol.gif
I'm not taking the p*ss.

I'm just exposing the hypocritcial lack of credibility with regards to your bleating about Senior. Its nothing personal.

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Quote: Dirty Pretty Thing "So while ever Wigan players are doing it and not getting suspended its OK but as soon as a nasty Leeds player does it sanctions need to be brought in?'"


No. It should be "stamped out" ASAP. It doesn't matter who does it.

Kicking out usually happens sideways, aimed at the ankles; this was an exceptional case, and beyond any doubt very dangerous. Pure and simple, he shouldn't have done it. THIS is why there is so much fuss being kicked up about it. It's against the rules, and players are supposed to know this, just the same as other dangerous tackles, inserting fingers into the anus, grabbing players by the testicles and other underhand techniques.

I've no doubt he didn't mean to kick anyone in the [iface[/i, but you can't say someone swinging their leg like that, without making any effort to find terra firma, didn't expect to feel something other than thin air on the other end!

Quote: Dirty Pretty Thing "Quite, I am absolutely sick of Wigan fans making out that their fans and players are 'whiter than white'. '"


And who in the name of holy hell has said that? NO-ONE. All should atone for their sins, whether they wear Cherry and White, Primrose and Blue or the Red Vee of Doom and Evil.

Quote: Dirty Pretty Thing "Senior kicked out in a tackle but intentional, I don't think so. As McClennan pointed out, he is actually facing the other way. He didn't think, 'oh, I know, there's Joel Tomkins, I'll kick him in the face'. Please. '"


See above. I'm sure he didn't mean to kick someone in the face, but he intended to connect with someone. The ground was the other way, so don't say he was trying to regain his feet one foot at a time in the way a clown at Blackpool circus would.


Quote: Dirty Pretty Thing "And, Lee Smith. Well, he celebrated where he scored the try. There are Rhinos fans that stand in the Western terrace and what did you expect him to do? Wigan would have done exactly the same had they scored in front of the Carnegie stand. And the Rhinos fans would have reacted in a very similar way to the Wigan fans (although I think a lunchbox might have been to far). But do not pretend that he stood on a wall (he didn't). No-one's pretending that Wigan have to feel happy about what happened. I know Wigan fans would like the entire Rhinos team to be up in front of the RFL for 'incitement' but as they haven't even passed comment, I can't see it. Let it go. '"


I've no issue with that. Although he did raise himself up on a wall, he was celebrating a win in a hard and close fought match. I didn't see any offensive hand gestures, but if there were, then yes, they should be pulled up for it on the grounds RL is a family sport, but that would apply to all players of all teams.

Quote: Dirty Pretty Thing "And as for Coley. As many have said, it's not about where Delaney ended up, it's what could have happened.'"


As is the whole Senior debacle. It's not about the fact that a player had stitches as a result, it's that he could have been whiplashed, concussed, blinded, or worse. The potential for injury from Senior's kick was high. If the minimum penalty is no further action, what the hell do you have to do to get the one match ban? Actually kill someone?

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Quote: Fishsta " what the hell do you have to do to get the one match ban? Actually kill someone?'"


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That's in poor taste considering recent events.

tut-tut

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Quote: Fishsta "As is the whole Senior debacle. It's not about the fact that a player had stitches as a result, it's that he could have been whiplashed, concussed, blinded, or worse. The potential for injury from Senior's kick was high. If the minimum penalty is no further action, what the hell do you have to do to get the one match ban? Actually kill someone?'"



Wear a big curly wig and you can probably get off from that as well. icon_wink.gif

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Or just be called Mathers or Tomkins.

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