I fact a quick look at the stats, 51 tackles from Parcell with one error, as opposed to McShanes 33 and two errors. Everything else similar. Not sure what people are expecting from an hooker. But that's the second game on trot against Cas, where Parcell has been a defensive saviour and topped 50 tackles.

I agree with you Walker is an exciting prospect even Mac has waxed lyrical about him rating him better than Ward on his debut. With 20 mins to go in last nights match I felt we had no answers to combat Cas, we lacked that creative edge or that catalyst that would spark the others into action. Walker's raw enthusiasm coupled with the no fear mentality that young players have COULD have made the difference . However, I am reminded of the CC game against Fev, true he was only on for 10 mins I think, so was never really going to make a great impact in a short space of time...but Fev players gave him a right battering...almost got knocked senseless. Not saying it would have happened last night ,you also can't wrap players in cotton wool..best way to learn from a knock is to get right back in there. Cas though were coming in hard last night ,if he had started they would have targeted him heavily ,possibly experiencing far worse than he did against Fev. Think in Fev match he only managed once to make decent metres but most of the time they closed him down...Cas who are a superior side to Fev would possibly done far more expert number on him. So end result probably still a defeat ,Mac though would have come under criticism for playing a youngster in an important match that kept us in contention. So I can understand his reasons for not risking Walker.... There is then the argument of ok why was he included in the squad...before match Mac genuinely thought Leeds would be able to reverse the 6 previous defeats, had we been winning by a reasonable margin then I reckon he would have played Walker...safe option though think you learn more from tough games...that my reckoning. I hope rumours of Walker considering his future at Leeds are false...kid just got to be patient ..he will get his time.

To me it was obvious before the start that Walker was NEVER going to get on unless we had a serious injury to a back or in the miracle that we found ourselves miles in front (which was never going to happen) so that being the case I think it was a waste of a bench spot and we could have just gone with another forward option.

Case in point last night was when we were behind and probably needing something different, Handley went off for a head assessment and instead of bringing Walker on and either sticking him on the wing for 10 minutes or putting him at FB and moving Sutcliffe into the halves, or sticking him in the halves for 10 minutes and moving Moon back to centre to solve the turnstile defence we had on that edge with Hall and Handley flapping about like girls we bring on Cuthbo instead

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I did go to the game thanks.

Have to say Parcell looks tired to me. Hes hardly run since the Wire game and while he makes lots of tackles he has stopped winning collision. Not blaming him for our dismal attacking efforts by the way.

Cas are very well coached they have options for Gale all the time with bodies in motion. We have no moves, set plays, structure and no decoy runners. Its boring to watch.

Weve some good hard working forwards who graft every week but have no X factor about them. They are all similar. We are linked with Hep Cahill for next year whos a solid pro and workhorse but we already have 4 Hep Cahills in our pack.

Ive nothing against McD weve had a lot of success under him but its time for some fresh ideas next year. I dont mind losing, it happens, but i hate the fact we are boring to watch.

Leeds Rugby League is known for its brand of attacking and that should be adhered to win lose or draw. Like i say at the moment we are boring to watch. The players give their all every week. Theres no lack of effort or pride. They just arent given a structure or system to succeed in from what I can see.

top post but you can read the same comments on wire, saints or pies board, super league and the game in general is on a slippery slope, watched the all blacks this morning, ball handling skills at pace which was great to watch, when was the last international RL game we can say that about

Sadly I have to agree with you. RU used to be dull and RL skillful. It seems the other way round these days

I get that cas fans are cocky after beating us again, and rightly so as they are a superior team to us at the moment. But they need to think bigger and look beyond beating us now, it's about winning the grand final and we are probably the 4th best team. They will more likely need to beat hull or Salford to win the grand final and they have shown an ability to beat cas.

I'm not sure they have enough games but I do think if Wigan made the top 4 they would strangle the life out of cas and win the gf.

Cant see Salford being in top 4 at the end of the 8s if im honest. I can see us playing Hull in both semi finals.

Did you watch the SOO on Wednesday? The standard of rugby down under is of a high level its just SL that is lagging behind.

If you watched the RU - one try came from an inability to catch a high ball and two came from the Lions being unable to slide their defence which is criminal with 15 players on the field. Having said that their try in the first half was superb

Struggle to see anybody catching the top 4 if I'm honest. I think Wakey will slack off. Especially in the super 8s. Then I think the rest are too far back.

Can see a:
Cas Vs Salford
Hull Vs Leeds

Semi final match up.

Cas have free run for the rest of the season now that they are out of the CC,They don't have the distractions that Hull FC,Salford and Rhinos have

Also the Winners of the CC regularly go on a bender which ultimately ends their season, so one of Cas' major challengers for the GF could be gone unless they could back up and remain in the game like we did in 2015

Unless Cas implode from here on in then they will definitely get a home semi final in the play off's

Wigan look to have far too much ground to make up in order to make the top 4 although until it is mathematically impossible then they still remain a threat IMO,If they finish 4th then they are capable of winning the GF irrespective of who they play

So you compared 2 different events to support your argument. Have you watched super league or NRL this year? RU is so far ahead of rugby league in the skills stakes it's laughable .

Regards

King James