Mullally getting some hammer despite very few minutes also during his spell the whole team was on the back foot.
Simply put we have no structure in attack & when under pressure our lack of composure to set up to kick early is appalling as is our criminal use of Watkins & co.
Mcguire had very little impact so that myth can be put to bed for now.
A long tough season awaits & the need for big changes gathers pace.

I was thinking that tbh. Everybody was garbage that first 8/9 minutes.

Thought Ablett was very good tonight. My MOM by a country mile. Wish the pudding Vea would have passed the ball and got the win for us. Good luck for the rest of the season

Briscoe was awful tonight by his standards can do much better jjb was immense as usual along with abo and ward they led the defence that got us the points mate have you ever played rugby league?

Ward (48 tackles) and JJB (43) did the most work in defense and the later drove the ball in well too and I think he was off the field when they made their come back in the second half. I thought Keinhorst's once again scored a crucial try and made a crucial tackle and Parcell looks sharp on the break. Ablett got through a lot of good work too but with the exception of Cuthbertson in the first half our props were below average. Burrow was our best attacker and was missed in the second half when he was off. A couple of nice touches from Mags but he did not look match fit and credit to Sutcliffe for his 40/20 and drop goal and he also ran in hard but too often ran when he should have passed and looked more like a backrower that a back and never a 6.

Our right wing combo looked slow and vulnerable in defence and non existent in attack. We were without 4 first choices injured players and a not match fit McGuire so there will be improvement to come. But the overwhelming problem is the lack of an organizer who can kick.

I think it's our lack of structure as well...which would be helped with an organiser. But the coaching team need to look in the mirror. The team don't look drilled. Compare them to Cas in attack and we're miles behind

Sorry but seen two posts now. Sutcliffe had a great game, and Burrow our best attacker.

What are people watching? They were both poor. Sutcliffe at least though won us the game, despite his overall performance.

Parcell was easily our best attacker, our only attacking threat.

As a whole we were awful, absolutely awful. That performance wouldn't have been excusable against a Wigan or Warrington, so why are some trying to justify it against an injury hit championship side.

All it did is highlight just how poor some of the players in our squad are. When this is mixed with poor tactics there is nowhere to hide for those players. Some players however did stand up and put massive efforts in, and as I said earlier Sutcliffe as poor as he is st stand off, won us that game. Without that it would have been a loss.

I'd love to know how many times our winger have touched the ball in the last 2 games when not scooting. They'd might as well be playing union. Last season we were shocking and people said McD deserved another year, well it doesn't look like anything will change. The pack and just up and downers with now flair and struggle to break the line. Half backs struggle to move the ball.

Also, Stevie Ward not MOM? Stevie Ward not a good game? What the hell again are they watching.

50 tackles, no misses. People cream their pants when JJB gets close to that and misses half a dozen tackles, but a player returning from injury puts his body on line none stop and it's questioned. The guy was phenomenal defensively, making up for others around him.

I think we are going to have to be patient with Leeds this season. 2016 was so bad it is going to take more than a solid pre-season to get back to top 4 form. Despite the opening 10 minutes and the poor attacking performance in the second half, there were signs of improvement from last week.

A key moment of weakness that was uncharacteristic of the Saints game was the decision to take an unnecessary 2 points when Leigh were down to 12 men. For me, this just showed Leigh too much respect when we should have gone for the jugular. Presumably someone thought we were gassed at this point? We could and should have gone on to put the game beyond reach at this point - ghosts of low confidence/anxiety from last season / last week?

Overall positives: the willingness to work hard in defence, and more attacking enterprise (at times!).

Individual performances: some players looked more like their former selves, including Cuthbertson, Ablett, and at times Briscoe and Hall. Keinhorst made some crucial plays, and I thought Singleton is starting to look the part as a future pack leader. Golding continues to look solid defensively. Parcell looks like a good signing, certainly better than Falloon and potentially as good as/better than Aiton.

The situation at half-back is clearly a work in progress, to put it kindly. Sutcliffe is a bit of an enigma. I thought he looked more threatening in attack, and made two crucial plays in getting the drop goal and 40:20. He doesn't look like a confident stand-off yet, but if he's given time here I still wouldn't rule him out coming good later... The guy has been moved from pillar to post - told he was Zak Hardaker's replacement at FB in 2016 (no pressure there either!) and now thrust back into the halves to be the next Sinfield! To an extent this is a player management issue (BMD), but we simply can't expect him to sparkle instantly after being moved around so much.

If anything, Burrow deserves more flak than Sutcliffe - Burrow is a veteran now who should be able to kick the ball better than the majority of his efforts last night. McGuire steadied the ship at times, and despite a muted return, I think he needs a little more patience before being written-off just yet.

Otherwise, agree Mullally still has a lot to prove. I thought Ormondroyd produced a couple of strong carries and might shine if given a bit more game-time. Looking forward to the returns of Ferres, Moon, Garbutt, Galloway and Lilley.

Seriously Exeter, you think we would have still won that game had we not gone for two? I definitely do not.

That was the only time in the game besides Sutcliffes two moments that we showed good game management. Time and again we lost last year by not taking the two, last week we lost by not taking the two, last night we won taking the two. That decision is the last one I would moan about from last night. Bud had we not took it and lost, I along with many others would certainly have been moaning about it.

Couple of interesting stats on the SL website, as well as stuff I've noticed watching the game back.

First on Mullaly, who has made eight carries across two games. I know his game time is limited, but that's Kirke esque, not good solid packman Kirke either, the last few years Kirke.

Walters who I know gets some stick on here managed 29 tackles, with no misses (maybe take that with a pinch of salt). As well as 6 carries. Also earnt the penalty we kicked in the 2nd half.

Ward and Singo really stand out has having started the season well, both high in the tackle and carry count. It was Singo who scattered the defenders for Parcell to jump out for Halls try. I think this is the year he makes himself an undisputed starting prop for us.

From an outsider point of view I dont take that comment of Sutcliffe being poor. Yes you see him week in week out for me he isn't a 6 in a month of sundays. But he is big strong and pokes his nose through everytime. I think as a wide running second row or centre he could be lethal, dpendant on his defensive abilities which like I say I cant comment on

Totally agree with Gotcha wrt taking the 2 especially when we are showing very little threat in the opponents 20m especially when they are all stood in a static line.
Thus far our defence has been good but overall i see very few lessons learned from last year irrespective of who the HB's are.