For me McDermott is like the coaching version of Brent Webb, you do get some good things from him but you get a lot of head scratching annoying moments, and you wish that he wouldn't open his mouth so often.

Fair call Printer it's as though he's trying to prove something at times and looks a right c#-# doing it.

Perhaps he simply saw enough of McShane around training to 'take a view' and despite one or two strong showings it was clear to him that McShane wasn't up to the job he specifically wanted him to do at this time. But having given him a long term contract it's clear that BM rates him/thinks he will have what it takes - just not yet though.

I think BM probably does have some very trenchant views about the game in general and its future. Not sure he really has got the hang of 'working the media' though and can come across as overly grumpy/inarticulate/underprepared for their almost always daft questions.

I am reasonably happy with Brian Mac for the simple reason I have been present at the breaking of several false dawns. Step forward and take a bow messers bamford ,Laughton Reily etc etc. we spent lots of money for a limited amount of success .many is the time mrs backwoodsman and myself and a host of others went to the likes of widnes,saints and wigan to see us get a good hiding.
So our recent success with the hands of Paul Caddick and GH on the tiller is very pleasing indeed.

It's like a carbon copy of last season in terms of head scratching performances and fans turning on mcdermott.

Next weeks game is massive. Wiagn are the best team in the competition at the moment. If leeds win they can look to kick on and challenge for a top 4 place. Win the game in hand and we'll be right in contention.

Lose and it's getting more and more difficult to make up the ground.

Recent league results against hudds, hull and saints have really set us back. If we'd won 2 of those we'd be right in there around the top 3 and no one would be batting an eyelid.

in my view this squad is no longer capable of finishing top 4. they are not good enough or strong enough to be consistant.
it wouldn't shock me to me them win the semi v wigan as they can turn it on for a big game.
the squad needed freshening up last year. a top quality hooker, second row and centre were needed. we signed two, decent , but nothing special props.
hence the papering over the cracks comment

I think I am stating the obvious, losing buderous and senior,two top class players and not replacing them like for like has dropped us down the pecking order somewhat.

Oh dear...

This thread may be busy again tonight.

For once i agree with the majority of you on here, he has to go. Your team were well beaten by us. I thought Leeds were bad against the Saints but tonight you were even worse.

It's all well and good beating the average clubs like Leeds and Saints, just wait until you come up against the mighty Wire.

The year of the Wolf I guess?

Wire are not a big club and both Leeds & St Helens have far more history than Wire could wish to have. Get back to under achieving

Will hold you to that, make sure you PM me when you lose and accept you were beaten by a better team. I think you peaked last season and are now on the slide.

Leeds: 8 Championships, 11 Challenge Cups, 3 World Club Challenges
St Helens: 12 Championships, 12 Challenge Cups, 2 World Club Challenges
Warrington: 3 Championships, 7 Challenge Cups, 0 World Club Challenges