So how many is it? I presume it's 20 or so after this series, and still only made an impact in a game and a half? Surely you understand the point I'm making anyway. His International career surely precludes him from being a 'great of the game'. Leeds great, definitely but, even as a Leeds fan you wouldn't put him in the same bracket as the true greats of the game such as Wally Lewis etc. would you?

I'm not doubting he's a Leeds great. Just as there are club greats at every club (Cunningham at Saints being a prime example) who wouldn't neccessarily qualify as 'greats of the game'.

I don't think it's a question of 'could' - more a definite 'will'! And with Pryce as SO it's even more of an issue. When he decides to play, Pryce is very similar in style to Eastmond (and Eastmond has acknowledged this publically, hoping it would not spoil his chances). To have two Pryces, even when one does actually turn up at each match (as Eastmond does), could be a bit of a 'mare really. But as has already been said, Longy was a broken field runner type player when he first came to us so hopefully inside Eastmond there is also an organiser. If not, he may have to swap roles or we may have to look to someone else to take on the organising role (which we will have to in the interim anyway). Scrum halves don't automatically have to be the organisers but obviously it would be easier that way.

What with Potter's apparent ability to stifle our attack, next season could turn out to be quite an interesting one!

Eastmond is absolutely nothing like Pryce IMO.

He's a 7 who has shown a good passing and kicking game at academy level.

He said it, not me. I can see his point in that he is a runner not an organiser (as yet?). But I clearly remember the interview in the RL press when he self-identified as playing very like Pryce.


He was also a good centre in the Grand Final.

I deleted that post because 5 seconds after I wrote it I realised that engageing an idiot in conversation, no matter how obvious a total fekkwitt he is, does in some way give him credibility.

So I'm not talking to Phuzzy now (that would be like trying to communicate with an amoeba by banging two hamsters together), I'm merely explaining with a point of reference.

Sinfield voted best 13 in the world 2009! its humble pie time idiots!!

He's doing very well. Pleased to be eating my hat or whatever. It's much nicer to be proved wrong on the upside than the downside.

One thing I would say is that the halfbacks of Eastmond/Tomkins is probably the best combination to use alongside Sinfield as neither of them are going to be leading the side around as yet. If we had quality experienced halfbacks I doubt there would be the same role available - in fact there really shouldn't be. In that case I'd see Sinfield as potentially our best hooking option.

For Leeds it'll be interesting to see how things develop from here. If I were McGuire I'd be wanting - actually needing - to develop a more rounded stand-offs game that won't fold under pressure. Which in turn means taking more responsibility for the team as a whole.

tell me, what would he HAVE to do in your eyes to become a great of the game?

Be a 4 time championship winning captain??
Or a 3-in-a-row winning captain??
Harry sunderland and lance todd winning captain???
M.O.M in a winning team against the WC holders??
Short-listed for the golden boot??
Voted the best 13 in the WORLD??
I guess he's a long way to go G before he "proves" himself a great of the game to RL genius phuzzy!!!

Yes this thread is still going and how you must want it to stop as your public lack of judgement comes back to bite you

Sinfield with his consistent performances on the field has proved you totally wrong. He was selected by Smith as first choice 13 and only moved at halftime to 9 because of the failure of other players to be effective in the distribution roles. He was selected as MOM having played half the NZ game at 13 and half at 9. He has been shortlisted for the coverted Golden Boot award based on his performances at 13 and his leadership and he has now been selected at 13 in the International Federation "Team of the Year" as one of only 3 British players (and only 2 SL players) He is the hub of the Leeds team and now he is the hub of the England team.

PS

Someone who has to boast is trying to cover over their inadequacies

With the exception of a World Cup win, he's achieved as much if not more in his career both domestically and internationally than Jonny Wilkinson.

Fair do's. It becomes a matter of opinion as to what constitutes "greatness" doesn't it? For me there are certainly no British players of this era who qualify on the international stage. With opinions there is always room for disagreement though.

IMO if players like Andy Farrell, Peacock, Fielden a few years ago & Senior had played in the Australian team they may have looked just as "great" as the great Aussies.