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| Tindall and Hall are playing in the reserves Saturday.
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| Quote tomtom84="tomtom84"I dont think this is a new thing to be honest its gone on for a number of years dads coaching their sons as no one else wants to do the job. Dont the club do nights throughout the year where club coaches come down? Im sure they used to but not 100% sure? That said said people on this forum are moaning about the coaches at the club so if they arnt good enough then whats the point in sending them to coach other coaches? Theres an argument that our better 18s weren't playing last night as its better for their development in the reserves im sure Wigan could argue the same. All the same it would have been nice to see Hall and Tindall tightening the edges up made for a more competitive game i feel.'"
Yep McDermott, whatever his faults, was a big driver behind the coach education programme that ran for several years (it might be still be going, not sure) and he used to take several sessions.
It was great in my opinion. The only problem being that it was somewhat preaching to the converted. Those who wanted to know more and be a better coach went to the sessions and you’d often see the same faces there. But those “bad” coaches are still bad coaches because they don’t go to the session.
Definitely worth doing though. They can only be positive for the amateur game.
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| Shouldn't we take the coach education programme around to the amateur clubs rather than run courses at HQ? I'd say this should be part of Agar's former role and something he should do if / when he steps back from 1st Team Coach.
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| Totally understand what you are saying Batley, and dont disagree at all, but shouldnt the RFL but in charge of coach education and not the professional clubs?
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| My comparison was fox to walker not worked with steve for years but whether or not he was the answer hes in front walker in my opinion.
Some of the coach education doesnt get to the key fundamantal issues that are going on in amateur clubs. Id start with simple principle (though also most important) that children should be active for at least 80% of the session, ie not doing things in relay lines with 12 kids queueing up to smash into a tackle shield held by a dad. Im so disheartened to still see that going on. And it even still happens within the leeds foundation staff, repeat stop doing activities in relay fashion. Id love to run a club cpd session, i was involved with delivering at the rhinos ones nearly 15 years ago.
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| Quote tomtom84="tomtom84"
Said it a million times they have a great junior coach but for whatever reason he gets overlooked on the gigs thats are going. It might be jobs for the boys it might not i dont know? `too stop start and too much huff and puff without any genuine quality tonight i was told they were good at Newcastle for long periods but Newcastle and Wigan are like chalk and cheese.'"
Are you referring to MB?
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| Quote Mark Laurie="Mark Laurie"Are you referring to MB?'"
I am indeed Mark when i speak to parents and people associated with the club they all speak highly of him as a person but more importantly as a coach. I have been banging this drum for a while. As a club we seem to fall into the habit of giving ex players coaching roles with our kids and they don't have the experience or skill sets when it come to development.
Coaching kids is totally different to the world of playing at the elite level they have just left i just don't think it works at all but thats just my take on what i have seen this past number of years.
Theres a bit of work for Walker to do based on last night but he should be given time after all its about developing future first graders and not about results
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| Quote Seth="Seth"My comparison was fox to walker not worked with steve for years but whether or not he was the answer hes in front walker in my opinion.
Some of the coach education doesnt get to the key fundamantal issues that are going on in amateur clubs. Id start with simple principle (though also most important) that children should be active for at least 80% of the session, ie not doing things in relay lines with 12 kids queueing up to smash into a tackle shield held by a dad. Im so disheartened to still see that going on. And it even still happens within the leeds foundation staff, repeat stop doing activities in relay fashion. Id love to run a club cpd session, i was involved with delivering at the rhinos ones nearly 15 years ago.'"
Your contradicting fox on this post Seth as he was the one out delivering the stuff you are moaning about at the community clubs as part of his role with the foundation before the club got rid of him thats where his bad reputation came from !!
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| Quote tomtom84="tomtom84"Your contradicting fox on this post Seth as he was the one out delivering the stuff you are moaning about at the community clubs as part of his role with the foundation before the club got rid of him thats where his bad reputation came from !!'"
Like i said ive not worked with steve for years my assessment, again compared with walker was on seeing him as a club coach. The community stuff i refer to is my experience of it in previous years, again not while steves been involved so cant comment.
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| Quote tomtom84="tomtom84"I am indeed Mark when i speak to parents and people associated with the club they all speak highly of him as a person but more importantly as a coach. I have been banging this drum for a while. As a club we seem to fall into the habit of giving ex players coaching roles with our kids and they don't have the experience or skill sets when it come to development.
Coaching kids is totally different to the world of playing at the elite level they have just left i just don't think it works at all but thats just my take on what i have seen this past number of years.
Theres a bit of work for Walker to do based on last night but he should be given time after all its about developing future first graders and not about results'"
I’ve heard a lot of good things about MB, understand he is now part of the England set up, so clearly is rated. Let’s hope he can keep progressing within the club and with England.
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| Quote Mark Laurie="Mark Laurie"I’ve heard a lot of good things about MB, understand he is now part of the England set up, so clearly is rated. Let’s hope he can keep progressing within the club and with England.'"
Not seen anything about England Mark but if thats correct it just reaffirms what i've been saying about the bloke all along!!
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| Quote Mark Laurie="Mark Laurie"I’ve heard a lot of good things about MB, understand he is now part of the England set up, so clearly is rated. Let’s hope he can keep progressing within the club and with England.'"
Yep he's just got the England staff gig for me he could & should be heading up our Acadamy set up in the near future.
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