Tui needs to stop playing until he gets fit. He looks a stone plus overweight, and he's slow as well. Ridiculous given speed was one of his strengths when he started.

Ok so I wouldn’t say this is a confident prediction, but...

1) in patches we have played quite well. We competed with London overall, a team who have beaten Wigan/Wakey previously (Wakey look good this season IMO), result could have gone either way.
2) the players might benefit from being away from the expectant glare of home fans, and being booed. Pressure is part of the problem and we’re playing as individuals too much.
3) if it’s a few degrees warmer it won’t do our overseas contingent any harm; may also help our skill level a little

4) blind optimism

I think we will win this weekend. I think we will win 6 out of next 10. But I also couldn’t see any possibility of losing to London.

I do however think we are better than the table shows. But that doesn’t hide the need for the club to act properly, or get back to focusing on what it did best.

Agree. The side isn’t as bad as it looks, but further (significant) change is needed.

With the difficulty of getting real quality in, we might have to run pretty much with what we’ve got.

Im usually very optimistic but this squad has no backbone as soon as Teams go at them they fold like soggy kit kats.
I do think we'll have enough to avoid relegation just but imo the rebuild needed runs deeper & is more drastic than everyone 1st thought.

I’m not so sure. If you think about it, there was always going to be another significant turnover in players at the end of this season, we couldn’t completely renew the squad in one closed season.

Just four or five good quality new players could transform Leeds. We’ve been mostly hurt by repeat offender poor defence and errors. Change that and we change some results.

Don’t get me wrong, things are bad. I thought we would do better this year than we have, but I always thought we would struggle without a real Garbutt replacement.

The problem is that Leeds, bar one blazing light in 2017, have been poor watching now for 3+ years and patience is in very short supply.

Win 6 out of our next ten

You start by looking at the fixtures, instead of acting the fool.

You do realise we have Hull KR twice, Wakefield twice, Huddersfield, Salford, and London again in those ten. If we fail on those six, then we really have problems.

We will not beat Wakey anywhere , Hull K.R away for sure and Salford and Huddersfield will be 50/50 so that leaves London who yes i think we will beat but i thought that on Friday .

Sorry missed Hull .K.R at home which will be another 50/50

We can't worry about the next 10 games. The only one that matters is next week now and the players need to show some fight, pride and mental toughness whether we win or lose.

I’m not saying the last 10 mins against London at home was acceptable, because it wasn’t. However, we were a cat’s cock hair away from winning and I think the overall performance was improved on Wakey and Hull previously.
We are playing like a Championship side because we have too many players who are Championship standard. But we will get up for the odd game and get lucky and get a result.

I have to say I usually defend the players because I think it’s far harder out on the pitch than criticising from the stands, but not contesting kicks at all (and poor 1:1 D) are signs of poor attitude. With the kicks, to be honest, I think players are terrified of making the mistake with the pressure being so high. It’s a bit different playing for Leeds, you have to be able to handle the pressure.

All the players want to win, and they put the effort in generally, but we have this hesitancy and indecision, and a lack of positive aggression. Some of that is just form and some is intrinsic to some individual players.

My view is that if a player hasn’t “got it” by 24 or so years of age, they probably never will. You can improve positionally but if you don’t have the physicality, mentality and technique by that point then -