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| Quote: Biff Tannen "You rarely see any wingers in broken field in the NRL so raw pace is not a must.'"
It is at the very highest level.
Did you watch State of Origin series ? Valentine Holmes scored two 90-metre interception tries and Tom Trbojevic got another.
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| Quote: miscreant "It is at the very highest level.
Did you watch State of Origin series ? Valentine Holmes scored two 90-metre interception tries and Tom Trbojevic got another.'"
You have just named two fullbacks, a position which now seems to have blistering pace as a prerequisite in the NRL. There are plenty of wingers in the NRL who are doing very well whilst not having much pace. Hall is about as quick as Fergason and probably quicker than Oates (both who have recently played Origin btw), and it looks like he will be replacing one or the other.
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| Good luck to him. We've lost our best winger, 2nd rower and prop with this announcement.
Ryan Hall has been superb for Leeds and I wish him all the best.
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| He should go down as one of greatest wingers of all time, a tremendous player. He'll be great in that Roosters side.
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| At the Roosters he'd be a direct replacement for Ferguson, who's a major asset for the Roosters in getting yards at the start of sets and just making tough runs when needed. I hope he goes well, but he may have left it a bit late.
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| Quote: leedsnsouths "You have just named two fullbacks, a position which now seems to have blistering pace as a prerequisite in the NRL. There are plenty of wingers in the NRL who are doing very well whilst not having much pace. Hall is about as quick as Fergason and probably quicker than Oates (both who have recently played Origin btw), and it looks like he will be replacing one or the other.'"
You mean the same Corey Oats that recently said he needs to be playing in the back row, where his pace is better suited?
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| To be replaced by Luke Briscoe, more savings to pay for the empty stands in 2019.
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| Gotcha - Oates wants to play back row but everyone else wants him to stay on the wing. Over a distance I'd say Oates is probably quicker than Hall nowadays - he's no slouch at all once he gets moving. I think Hall should go well in the NRL though because they'll value what he brings and use it - strong start to sets and ability to finish in the corner.
Sadly we very rarely see wingers run great distances to score any more because fullbacks and cover defences are just too quick and well trained to get back. Holmes' Origin try was an intercept as was Trbojevic's. I haven't seen the stats but I'd be surprised if the vast majority of wingers tries in the NRL aren't scored from 10m or less.
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| Quote: BrisbaneRhino "Gotcha - Oates wants to play back row but everyone else wants him to stay on the wing. Over a distance I'd say Oates is probably quicker than Hall nowadays - he's no slouch at all once he gets moving. I think Hall should go well in the NRL though because they'll value what he brings and use it - strong start to sets and ability to finish in the corner.
Sadly we very rarely see wingers run great distances to score any more because fullbacks and cover defences are just too quick and well trained to get back. Holmes' Origin try was an intercept as was Trbojevic's. I haven't seen the stats but I'd be surprised if the vast majority of wingers tries in the NRL aren't scored from 10m or less.'"
But he won't really get as much chance with that strong start to sets asset. The last tackle option in most of the NRL sides is far superior to what we contend with in Super League. If they are closer to him, he is too slow to build up steam to make an impact on the metres. More worrying is his ability under high kicks in defence.
We will see, but I just think he won't be able to do it in that comp, not on the wing. Burgess was much more suited, and he ended up back quickly. Can you image Hall up against the likes of Josh Addo Carr, James Roberts, Gela Mosby, he would be burned away.
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| Quote: Gotcha "But he won't really get as much chance with that strong start to sets asset. The last tackle option in most of the NRL sides is far superior to what we contend with in Super League. If they are closer to him, he is too slow to build up steam to make an impact on the metres. More worrying is his ability under high kicks in defence.
We will see, but I just think he won't be able to do it in that comp, not on the wing. Burgess was much more suited, and he ended up back quickly. Can you image Hall up against the likes of Josh Addo Carr, James Roberts, Gela Mosby, he would be burned away.'"
I'm struggling to understand why you don't think he'll hold his own in the NRL. Like others have said, he's shown on the international stage that he isn't out of his depth against the Aussies and Kiwis. And he's hardly going to be sitting out training and not working on his game. If they think he has a weakness under the high ball, I personally think he's pretty good, he's in the best place to get that training.
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| Quote: D4mo78 "I'm struggling to understand why you don't think he'll hold his own in the NRL. Like others have said, he's shown on the international stage that he isn't out of his depth against the Aussies and Kiwis. And he's hardly going to be sitting out training and not working on his game. If they think he has a weakness under the high ball, I personally think he's pretty good, he's in the best place to get that training.'"
I suppose the starting position would be to answer your post is that I am looking at Ryan Hall in the present. You, by your post, and I assume others, are looking at Ryal Hall of previous years. And again I did say It was my opinion. But I will be surprised if he plays out a full season in the NRL, on the Wing.
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| Quote: Gotcha "I suppose the starting position would be to answer your post is that I am looking at Ryan Hall in the present. You, by your post, and I assume others, are looking at Ryal Hall of previous years. And again I did say It was my opinion. But I will be surprised if he plays out a full season in the NRL, on the Wing.'"
The Ryan Hall who was exceptional in the recent world cup and the recent test?
I Know its the done thing on here to deride any player who plays for us but Ryan Hall has been a world class winger for the majority of his career and he still is, he will go well in the NRL.
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| Quote: christopher "The Ryan Hall who was exceptional in the recent world cup and the recent test?
I Know its the done thing on here to deride any player who plays for us but Ryan Hall has been a world class winger for the majority of his career and he still is, he will go well in the NRL.'"
I haven't in any way derided him, so unsure where you read that from. I have been specific on why I think it will not work for him in the NRL.
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| Quote: Gotcha "I haven't in any way derided him, so unsure where you read that from. I have been specific on why I think it will not work for him in the NRL.'"
My derision point was more a general view of the forum.
But anyway we don't even know if he is going there yet, didn't someone mention he got a big offer from a RU side? he could be weighing up his options that's why he hasn't announced anything as yet?
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| I did say earlier in the month Ryan was leaving, but was shot down by someone!. Also that Luke B was his replacement. I wish I had been to the bookies now
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