To be fair to him, at least he was one of the players to bother chasing back when Hull made breaks - for the Crooks try he tracked across field and nearly got there, where as all our fellas in the middle of the field didn't even make an attempt to get back - they'd given up on the race before it even started!

Having said that - he's had a shocker with that play! He looked genuinely scared to take the contact, hence trying to run around the whole team....

Echo these sentiments, seems to be out of his depth at this standard ,his confidence must be shot. You have got to ask what any reasonable coach would do with an academy/reserve player that was going through this type of sticky patch, perhaps drop him down a level to regain his confidence?
He reminds me very much of Rex Turp.

he rocked up from nowhere for a game......GH heard his accent and offered him a contract......forget the kids coming through this guy is Australian !!! what a joke player and joke situation......you can bet he is cheap as chips though eh gary

I could see what he was trying to do as hulls right hand side had not come up, but he simply didn't have the place to make it which shows pretty poor judgement.
One of the words plays is seen over the years. Not sure he should be dropped given the state of the injuries though

the headingley tea lady hasnt got the pace to be a superleague winger at least not pushing that trolley

My abiding memory from his massive brain fart is virtually the whole of the Leeds fans shouting 'NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!' as he set off running along his own try line in front of a wall of Hull players. By 'eck, I was angry at that point. I was not the only one. Silly boy.

Basic wingman stuff IMO - you pick the ball up behind your own line run as fast as f*ck straight towards the oncoming defense then surrender into the tackle so you're not pushed back behind your line - and I was a second rower!

Yes it was a mistake. He should have run straight and taken the tackle and kept possession. But please put this in perspective. Hall in the same game fumbled the ball and also got driven back over his line. Hall also rushed out of the line and missed a tackle that led to their first try and was slow chasing back. Hall was again slow chasing back after he failed to take Sinfield's kick which led to their 2nd try. As has been already been stated Vickery gave a quicker and better chase back than Hall or Hardaker who although closer gave up. But so much easier to put all the blame onto Vickery than Hall who is also out of nick at the moment.

We can excuse Hall the odd mistake as they can be balanced against his moments of sublime brilliance.

Sh$t springs to mind.
Hall is playing like he has just shat himself and Vickery Shats himself every time he gets the ball.
Having said all that Vickery must be dropped for next week.

Juan -

Hall is a known quantity. I agree by his usual high standards he has been out of sorts recently - not just last night - whereas Vickery has never been in form and shows no sign yet that he ever will be. Not SL standard and hasn't been from day one, in my oft repeated opinion.

This has nothing in particular to do with last night's surrender showing - it's been evident all along and commented on throughout. Size but doesn't know how to use it, no pace, no power, no footwork, no enthusiasm in the chase. Last night Sinfield was prodding kicks down his wing and Vickery never got out of amble mode. It's all been said before and will all be said again if he continues to 'earn' selection.

"Juan"
Hall fumble the ball when it was fired at his legs and had to re-gather whereas Vickery having failing to catch the ball in the first instance had time to pick the ball up off the floor and then go forward 10 metres. Instead he chose to run along his line and then got clobbered proving he's a Muppet as it cost us 6 points