As Ringo Starr might have once wrote to Marge Simpson 'sorry for the lateness of my reply.'

Yes it was. That game (28 - 20) was in the Yorkshire Cup 1st round (13th September 1992) and was watched by a Headingley crowd of 5,952.

Lowes would make his Leeds debut just 19 days later in a 13 - 4 home win V Warrington in the league.

The mention of Moa won't happen. He's most likely going to be going to the NRL as he has stated that he wants to play there whilst he's in his prime and he can. I think that all of his family are over there and so that will be a pull too.

In answer to the OP's original question - Father Time should be sharpening his scythe for Peacock and Leuluai. On the basis that they are offering little to the first team that one of the Under 20s couldn't, Moore and Hauraki should be following Webb out of the exits. I feel bridges may have been burned with McShane, so it may be best for all concerned if he moves on.

Do you think the club would have offered Kylie a new deal only a few weeks ago if that were the case?

Personally I think Peacock & Leuluai can still do a job for Leeds. They just need to be used correctly, something we're not doing at the moment. Peacock is no longer a 60-80minute player

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Lee Smith, Clarkson, Webb, Mc Shane, Ambler, Griffin/Moore

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Lunt(if poss), Amor (re called), Chisholm, Singleton, Keinhorst

Lee Smith has failed to raise his game beyond mediocre and is exposed in any other position than wing where he is too slow.

Clarkson has been shocking and offers nothing in attack. Unfortunately our 2nd row has too many players that do little with ball in hand. Delaney is another average back rower that would fail to get into any other SL squad unless he is .

Mc Shane appears to be on his way. If so, yet another shambles of recruitment. Given a long term contract then discarded. Don't blame him for going.

Griffin/Moore. It would be harsh on Moore if he was shown the door but the pack needs bolstering. Although Kylie has had a good season it was wrong to give him another year.

Ambler can be let go as surplus to requirements.

I agree with your "outs" but think we can't fill all the positions with youngsters. We are world champions and I want us to remain at the top. We need 2/3 quality, experienced signings and hopefully Gary is going to deliver?

He is delivering. Senior will be announced as a Signing Soon

I wouldn't let Griffin go. He looked good early doors, but has since had no game time, being selected behind a clearly knackered Peacock. Moore maybe, but he has looked to be one of our most effective forwards this year, and the nearest to a Lauititi replacement we've got.

If McShane is truly unhappy, then his departure would be for the best. As for siginings, the OOCs within SL (Millard & Elima) do solve some of our problems, but we really need to strengthen in the front row asap. TBH I think we'd need a sizable influx of players (my picks Kopczak, Moa, Elima, Bateman, Millard & Lunt) in order to be competitve at the top of SL again. Unfortunately, our policy of making minimal signings each close season has now badly backfired. Still, I think we have a strong core of youngsters in Hardaker, BJB, Watkins, Hall, Ward, Hood, Ablett & Delaney.

Still, the releasing of Luke Burgess is starting to look more and more like a bad decision.

I agree with the the players you would bring in but how realistic are they to sign? For example very strong rumours that Bateman is going to Warrington and Frosties has said that Moa is going back to NRL and Millard staying at Catalan?

How very positively underwhelming is that



We should sign Steve Menzies and be done with it.

Well seen as Senior will play better than any of the current "Centres" at the Rhinos, Overwhelming.....I might have to sit down.



And as for Menzies! He is playing better than most of our Forwards at present

Can't argue with the Menzies retort......Muddleton_boner (for Senior)