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| Wilkin is a joke. I don't always agree with the things Bailey does - but, winding up the opposition is part of the role he plays for Leeds, how any Leeds fan can complain about his 'head parting' and cheering of opposition mistakes is beyond me.
And why would our own fans give him grief about not fighting - that would get him sent off.... He plays the wind up merchant excellently - and has also much improved his go forward. This, along with the ability to draw penalties, generally win the collision and get a decent speed play the ball, plus decent defence, has seen him look very good this year.
And for Wilkin to try and play the 'proffesionalism' martyr - complete hypocracy from the old vacuum beak.
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| We all forgot 'there were cameras in the dressing room!'. That may be my favourite Wilkin Whinge.
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| Quote Him="Him"If you saw that kind of thing in junior rugby I hope you had a word with the coach of that team. At junior level it's pathetic, at SL it happens regularly from every team and is part of winding up the opposition. Sadly, in this case, I think Jon Wilkin is merely bitter at losing to Leeds in a final again. His previous 2 post-GF whinges lend weight to the argument that even if Bailey is immature during a game, Wilkin is just as immature immediately after it.'"
Don't disagree regarding Wilkin - it still doesn't excuse Bailey's behaviour, as I said earlier the game is tough enough and I don't see the likes of Buderus, Peacock, Sinfield descending to this type of cheap stuff? One of the best things about Leeds over the past few weeks is the their respect for both the official and their opposition - Wigan apart.
At junior level this behaviour is understandable - these are young immature kids with hormones wizzing round their bodies. Rugby is an outlet for their natural aggression, plus they have a host a mothers on the sideline encouraging this type of behaviour. No coach would be able to stop it - if they subbed all the players who did it there would be no players left on the field.
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| Quote Superted="Superted"Wilkin is a joke. I don't always agree with the things Bailey does - but, winding up the opposition is part of the role he plays for Leeds, how any Leeds fan can complain about his 'head parting' and cheering of opposition mistakes is beyond me.
And why would our own fans give him grief about not fighting - that would get him sent off.... He plays the wind up merchant excellently - and has also much improved his go forward. This, along with the ability to draw penalties, generally win the collision and get a decent speed play the ball, plus decent defence, has seen him look very good this year.
And for Wilkin to try and play the 'proffesionalism' martyr - complete hypocracy from the old vacuum beak.'"
Leeds and Bailey are good enough without the need to resort to childish behaviour - he is the only player Leeds who does this stuff, if it were such an important element of winning the game the senior players would be at it too!!
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| Quote Superted="Superted"And why would our own fans give him grief about not fighting - that would get him sent off.... He plays the wind up merchant excellently - and has also much improved his go forward. This, along with the ability to draw penalties, generally win the collision and get a decent speed play the ball, plus decent defence, has seen him look very good this year.
And for Wilkin to try and play the 'proffesionalism' martyr - complete hypocracy from the old vacuum beak.'"
Excellent post. Says it all. 
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| Quote gulfcoast_highwayman="gulfcoast_highwayman"I noticed Meli. He made his usual cock-up. He is the ultimate anti-big game player.'"
He's still scampering after Rob's dummy
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| The old "role model" argument. Look up to those that are, sure, but the game would be immensely poorer if it wasn't played by many who aren't.
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| Wilkin would be better off adapting the Wigan technique and apply a press-blackout on himself for the week after Grand Finals.
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| I quite like Wilkin as a player, but you can't do that sort of cry-baby act every year and then start talking about commanding respect.
Or, actually, you can, but I'll point and laugh at you. Because I'm childish like that.
By the way, watching the Sky coverage back yesterday, they showed a shot of Leon Pryce on the bench, which I believe was the first sighting of him at a Grand Final since 2005.
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| Quote El Diablo="El Diablo"By the way, watching the Sky coverage back yesterday, they showed a shot of Leon Pryce on the bench, which I believe was the first sighting of him at a Grand Final since 2005.'"
He did have a shocked "so this is a grand final?" look on his face too. 
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| Your own players weren't impressed with him either. There was just no context to it. Had Jammer been crying to the ref and had players been giving verbals and lashing out after it went your way I could understand it. But there was none of that, it was a fairly contested final played in a good spirit.
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| I agree with Sal on many points. Bailey is immature and his behaviour at times compared to that of Peacock, Kylie,Sinny and the rest is poor.His arm waving when Sinny was lining up the kick was as much to rile Saints players as it was to get the Leeds fans celebrating IMO. My only grumble is that the complaint comes from Wilkin. A player who once commented that if you get stuck into the Leeds pack they usually run away or words to that effect. I dont agree with Baileys actions at times but Wilkin is the last Saints player to feel sorry for.
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