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| Quote Seth="Seth"So just reading back a bit, am I right in thinking that people saw webbs pointing as him trying to pin the responsibility on the other covering defenders? If true I'd give in trying to express 'knowledge' of the game.
Also 9/10 I'd expect the ball carrier to win on a 1v1 in that situation.'"
It was me that said about the pointing. It was amateurish. At best. He was asking Watkins/Hall to go for Youngquest, then made no attempt to go for Rangi. That's stupid. What's the point in saying... "You two get him!" then not getting the other bloke yourself?!
I'd expect a try 9/10 in that situation too. But just backtracking and letting him run at you is more like 10/10. At least ATTEMPT a tackle before it's too late.
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| Quote Seth="Seth"
Also 9/10 I'd expect the ball carrier to win on a 1v1 in that situation.'"
Quite. Just like you might have expected BJBs young legs to beat McGoldricks in the same situation. Yet these people that are slating Webb want BJB handed the full back position. Based upon him running through treacle for the last 20 yards of his break I wonder why they think he would have done any better than Webb with the Chase try?
An excellent read of the play by the way, even if you did pinch my earlier observations of Clarkson's lazy/tired retreat 
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| Agree - but he couldnt go for the man until the defenders had the support covered. He help up the decision making of Chase sufficiently to allow the cover defence to prevent a simple 2 on 1, he just didnt have the speed to get to Chase once he'd gone for the corner.
If Webb had gone for Chase at the first opportunity, a simple 2 on 1 and try under the sticks would have followed. Webb did everything right, barr actually make the tackle. He didnt make the tackle because Chase had the pace on him, in addition, Webb's body position wasn't great, meaning he had to turn across himself to try get to Chase, Chase was simply too good and too quick in that 1 on 1 occasion. I'm not saying Webb is blame free, afterall, he didnt make the tackle, but I think it was more a technical and physical fault, rather than decision making.
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| I'm only making ONE POINT... That Webb is way past his best, and should not have been signed for next season.
I defy anybody to watch it back, then come on here and tell me that you think pre-backinjury Webb would've conceded that try.
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| Quote G1="G1"Quite. Just like you might have expected BJBs young legs to beat McGoldricks in the same situation. Yet these people that are slating Webb want BJB handed the full back position. Based upon him running through treacle for the last 20 yards of his break I wonder why they think he would have done any better than Webb with the Chase try?
An excellent read of the play by the way, even if you did pinch my earlier observations of Clarkson's lazy/tired retreat
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I hadn't seen your post good sir, my extensive coaching experience helped me spot that. You're coming along well! Bjb wouldn't give the additional creativity of Webb which given the form of the halves would be a concern, he's also doing well on the wing....I know, let's move him!
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| Good passer of the ball Webb..........especially forwards!
But seriously will be interesting to see if he has another year in the tank...............overall his spell with the club has been very good but lets hope it ends with a good year!
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| Quote Seth="Seth"Bjb wouldn't give the additional creativity of Webb which given the form of the halves would be a concern, he's also doing well on the wing....I know, let's move him!'"
This isn't like calling for Hall to be moved to the Centre, or Burrow to be moved to Hooker. I'm not trying to just move people for the sake of it.
BJB IS our next full back. Yes, he's not as experienced as Webb, and he's a different type of full back, but so what? We're supposed to be in "transition" yet we're intent on clinging onto past their best players instead of giving the future the experience everybody seems to complain at them for not having.
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| Quote Remarkable_Rhinos="Remarkable_Rhinos"I'm only making ONE POINT... That Webb is way past his best, and should not have been signed for next season.
I defy anybody to watch it back, then come on here and tell me that you think pre-backinjury Webb would've conceded that try.'"
Pre-back injury, Webb would have had a better chance of making the tackle, but he would still have made the same decision on pointing his cover defenders to the support runners and offering Chase the outside - I'd still say that the likelihood would have been a try still (Chase is afterall on of the best runners in superleague).
That was my point, Webb made the correct call on how to deal with the threat, he simply didnt have the pace having given Chase the only option to go to the corner to catch him. Rather than berate Webb, to be honest I think you've just gotta give credit to Chase.
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| Forward passes or not leeds lose a lot without Webb as a passing option given how the current halves are performing. That would be the concern with bjb at full back.
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| Quote Remarkable_Rhinos="Remarkable_Rhinos"It was me that said about the pointing. It was amateurish. At best. He was asking Watkins/Hall to go for Youngquest, then made no attempt to go for Rangi. That's stupid. What's the point in saying... "You two get him!" then not getting the other bloke yourself?!
I'd expect a try 9/10 in that situation too. But just backtracking and letting him run at you is more like 10/10. At least ATTEMPT a tackle before it's too late.'"
You've misread the situation that occurred.
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| I can see why Webb has been retained in tems of who we are releasing and how young and inexperienced our back line are.
The biggest shocker to me is that Kirke got 2yrs yet Bailey who has been by far our best prop all year has yet to be retained !!
Griffin i think will add something .Moore i'm underwelmed and would of hoped Ambler or Amor would of got a crack at a few games.
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| Quote rhinoms="rhinoms"I can see why Webb has been retained in tems of who we are releasing and how young and inexperienced our back line are.
The biggest shocker to me is that Kirke got 2yrs yet Bailey who has been by far our best prop all year has yet to be retained !!
Griffin i think will add something .Moore i'm underwelmed and would of hoped Ambler or Amor would of got a crack at a few games.'"
agree about Bailey being amongst our best if not best prop these last 4 games.....but all season?????? Come on mate that's stretching it a little far??
Agree I'd prefer him (on current form) to the retention of Kirke and probably Kylie as well.
If rumours of Griffin and Moore come true and Bailey is retained then I worry about the future of Amor and Ambler. Would they be prepared to go out on loan again and await injuries or retirement if JP and Kylue to get their chance in the 1st team?
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