Ughh. We'll get hammered....and that will be by PNG.

It's a bit underwhelming, but in fairness to MacBanana, it's hard to see how it could have been a lot better.

I think we have some decent prospects on the wing, and the forwards for the most part look pretty good, back row in particular. I worry a little about the half backs, Tomkins aside.

the big problems are:

At 9, where Roby is the only credible option in my book, and I would rather see him spelled with a more tactical, controlling hooker.

At centre, where we continue to be unable to produce top class players. Atkins and Shenton are alright, but that's it. They're the best on offer without going to the old skool with Gleeson and Senior though. We shouldn't be in that position surely? Massive and ongoing problem for us.

Last time we went down under we were pathetic.

And that was with RL Jedi master Uber-coach Tony smith. He was made to look like an articulate chimp.

So imagine what's going to happen with Crapbanana in charge

We've been pathetic down under for quite some time, therefore I'd suggest that short of losing by record scorelines, McNamara can't do a lot worse than any recent GB or England coaches.

We haven't beaten the Kiwis down under since 1992 and we've lost 8 times on the bounce. Since 1992 we've beaten the Aussies once down under 23-12 in 2006 but hammered on the other four occasions... 6-42, 10-64, 10-33 and 4-52.

Is this the worst squad with the worst coach that we've ever sent down under? It looks pretty close to both 'accolades' to me...

The more we are embarrassed internationally the more difficult it is to get any press coverage at all here in the UK...I fear next season will start with a virtual press blackout

I just think we are lucky that the likes of Inglis,Jennings, and Gasnier are'nt playing.
This Aussie squad has stacks of injuries missing aswell and it still is full of quality as is the Kiwi squad it's gonna be a long tour for our lads and could prove the to be the most humiliating yet.

If they avoid a 50 to 60 point hammering then clearly they won't be on both counts.

Do you mean each time they play? I think they may beat PNG - just. As for NZ and Aus, dread to think, but I'm guessing we will cop for at least one 50 or 60 point hammering along the way...

Do you know what this is?

I'm guessing you didn't share the very same negative outlook when Tony Smith was in charge during the World Cup two years ago? Just for the memories, we got hammered 52-4 when Peacock, McGuire, Sinfield, Senior and Burrow all played.

If McNamara and his squad manage to do better than that, I assume you'll concede they aren't the worst coach and squad combination we've ever sent down under?

I will look forward to an Australia vs New Zealand Final.

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