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Quote: red13pjb "As a completely neutral observer and fan of a team unlikely of ever being in this position I feel I must take a few things up here.
1. Last year on Grand Final day I witnessed a group of so called Leeds supporters abuse a local man in an wheel chair outside a pub in Swinton. (therefore I think that we can all say that ALL clubs have their few morons who let the club down).
2. Show me in the rule book where it says that you are not allowed to hold onto the ball tightly in the tackle! If you analyse what Tomkins is actually doing there is nothing for the ref to penalise him for! The onus is on the tackler to get out of the way. Tomkins is merely taking advantage of the almost automatic response of defenders in the modern game to get their hands right around the ball in every tackle.
3. As for brother Joel Tomkins and his kick out at McGuire... well it was stupid on his part and ultimately cost Wigan the game! However, when you take into account that IMO Leeds should already have been down to 12 men following the potetially neck breaking spear tackle on Prescot by Danny Buderus. I feel that this levels the playing field somewhat.

All in all, as a neutral who generally attends the Grand Final with no hope of glory at the end of it, I am praying that we don't have to witness yet another sterile, crowd dwindling Leeds v Saints encounter. This is what is wrong with the play-offs. It rewards mediocrity!!!'"


I thought you said your team weren't in the play-offs??? icon_lol.gif

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It was justice because Richards first half penalty attempt did not go over! We were right in line, and it missed by a clear metre!

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Quote: django "4. In that case don't forget Wigan also being down to 12 men following the potentially neck breaking spear tackle on Eastwood.'"


What about the text book spear tackle on Prescott ? You miss that ?

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Quote: DP_wwrlfc "What about the text book spear tackle on Prescott ? You miss that ?'"


Is this the time where I say I wish he'd have broken his neck?????





Oh no,it's only Danny McGuire who deserves a serious injury isn't it.Apologies.How silly of me.

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No! Just I don't think a thread entitled "Justice" can apply when there was clearly a penalty to Wigan on that play!! McGuire pulled Carmont down and because the muppets on Sky and the ref and touch judge focus on the wrong incident you lot think that he was allowed to do it. The fact that he ended up injured is merely ironic, not deserved or desirable!

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Quote: django "4. In that case don't forget Wigan also being down to 12 men following the potentially neck breaking spear tackle on Eastwood.'"


The one where he lands on his fat backside you mean?

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Quote: Norman Stanley Fletcher "Is this the time where I say I wish he'd have broken his neck?????





Oh no,it's only Danny McGuire who deserves a serious injury isn't it.Apologies.How silly of me.'"

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Were you educated in Wigan by any chance!?

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Quote: red13pjb "As a completely neutral observer and fan of a team unlikely of ever being in this position I feel I must take a few things up here.
1. Last year on Grand Final day I witnessed a group of so called Leeds supporters abuse a local man in an wheel chair outside a pub in Swinton. (therefore I think that we can all say that ALL clubs have their few morons who let the club down).'"


Why the hell would Leeds supporters be in Swinton on Grand Final day?!

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Bluey when interviewed on Sky wants Danny's injury reviewed. It would appear that something has gone on in back play after he has brought Carmont down. Riddell is seen to run a good distance to shout at Danny whilst he's on the ground and it could be there that the issue lies. Hemmings said it was Sam Tomkins concerned as to Danny's well being but as usual gets it wrong.

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Quote: Norman Stanley Fletcher "Nice to hear so called supporters saying that they hope Danny McGuires career is over and reducing a teenage girl to tears with animal behaviour after they'd left the stadium.

I've lost what little respect I had for Wigan after this.'"


They've lost, and some of their fans are so angry and frustrated they don't know how to deal with the emotion so the vent it on the opposition. In this case danny mcguire and a teenage girl.

If you watch the replay theres about 3/4 leeds defenders chasing back in the gap where carmotn was running, so theres no guarantee he'd have made the line.

he was cuaght with a clear run 20 metres ffrom the hall after hall had knocked on, so something tells me he'd have been caught with a 50 metre run to the line.

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Quote: Omar Little "Why the hell would Leeds supporters be in Swinton on Grand Final day?!'"



I only ever go to Swinton to CC semi's
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Yes we could have won with the kicks and we are probably in these play offs 12 months too soon, but i would hate to be there by cheating the way Leeds do,I wish Danny Mcguire all the best but i bet he's playing in a couple of weeks time,

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Quote: Sunshine state "Yes we could have won with the kicks and we are probably in these play offs 12 months too soon, but i would hate to be there by cheating the way Leeds do,I wish Danny Mcguire all the best but i bet he's playing in a couple of weeks time,'"



So, does Tomkins cheating to win penalties towards you being a in position to possibly win the game count, or does the time of the offence now overide everything else?

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