As I understand it though from, Adey Bull in particular, this will be subject to legal challenge by the clubs and it is anyone's guess who will win! It is not clearly current legal or illegal and that is the problem HMRC have here. We know that the HMRC lost the David Beckham case in court and it was speculated that was because they were able to demonstrate that his image really was worth the money they were giving to him for it, the difficulty the HMRC is going to have is agreeing any limits on image rights and how they will decided on a player by player basis, sport by sport basis and just a blanket figure for all sports people?

If they go for a universal, lets say 50%, then most RL and RU's clubs will probably be happy with that and football less happy, but how do you decided how much someone's image is worth?

Very very easy mate

1. Cat walk strut off!

2. How well can a person vogue!

3. blue steel!

3. And the all important dance off!

I don't want to sound like sour grapes, or desperate or anything.

But surely, if they have been sripped of the titles, their minor premierships, and this seasons points, surely they should be stripped of the WCC also?

Leeds should be quick on getting this message across.

to be honest mate nobody is gonna spring to melbournes defence on this one. I think it's a given, but agree they should be stripped of the title! they are the best team in the world at cheating though!

It doesn't mention anything about their status as world champions, however as they've been stripped of the NRL title which enabled them to play in the world club challenge in the first place, one would imagine that the stripping of the WCC title will follow suit automatically. I'm also assuming that as 2007 and 2009 are to remain blank in the NRL record books with effectively no winners, then the same will apply to the 2010 WCC? Will be interesting to see if they confirm this or not in the days to come though.

I wonder how many bonfires there will be at sl and nrl clubs today? Hahaha

From the articles I've read it seems they confessed rather than being caught? Or have I read that wrong?

That's how it should be - stripped of the titles but these should not then be awarded to the losers/runners up.

Wrong mate! They were caught then totally fessed up handing over the second set of books and contracts kept at the CE's house. the first files about other payments were found in a room at the club offices.

Not sure, it seems that the claim is many of the board didn't know this was going on and they have called in the police to investigate!!!

I am chuckling to myself reading this thread. Cant believe that some Leeds fans have suggested that Bradford, Saints and Wigan should have been dealt with more severely, and Warrington should have Squeaky bums when the storm issue has some alarming parralells for all those living East of Pudsey and West of Garforth!

a successful club, winning multiple premierships and minor premierships, a team stacked full of internationals and homegrown future internationals ( and eventual internationals), seemingly staying within the cap and pontificating about how they successfully stay within the rules, only to be found out for massive breaches in the long term, and a removal of titles!

I can almost see the smoke from the bonfire in the southstand carpark as the second set of books is burned!

You missed Saints mate - Whoops, no you didn't!

Of course winning the GF helps the salary cap no end and having one the last three then Leeds have been able to give the lads quite nice year end bonuses... don't need a second set of books if you can give them a nice legal year end bonus!

Homegrown future internationals, on low contracts until they eventually run out, then some have to be moved on, ie: calderwood, walker, smith, scruton etc when they are established first teamers, then come the next batch.
That apart GH & Caddick love the salary cap, if anyones under it its them 2.

Even if the cap is live people can still cheat. The live cap just stops deals being done that would otherwise only be discovered when the accounts were submitted months/years later

Quote: isaac1 "I am chuckling to myself reading this thread. Cant believe that some Leeds fans have suggested that Bradford, Saints and Wigan should have been dealt with more severely, and Warrington should have Squeaky bums when the storm issue has some alarming parralells for all those living East of Pudsey and West of Garforth! a successful club, winning multiple premierships and minor premierships, a team stacked full of internationals and homegrown future internationals ( and eventual internationals), seemingly staying within the cap and pontificating about how they successfully stay within the rules, only to be found out for massive breaches in the long term, and a removal of titles! I can almost see the smoke from the bonfire in the southstand carpark as the second set of books is burned!'" I think GH's comments tell you all you need to know about Leeds and the cap! We don't brake it which makes our success all the more special. www.therhinos.co.uk/news/10794.php? now jog along bullscum

Quote: isaac1 "I am chuckling to myself reading this thread. Cant believe that some Leeds fans have suggested that Bradford, Saints and Wigan should have been dealt with more severely, and Warrington should have Squeaky bums when the storm issue has some alarming parralells for all those living East of Pudsey and West of Garforth! a successful club, winning multiple premierships and minor premierships, a team stacked full of internationals and homegrown future internationals ( and eventual internationals), seemingly staying within the cap and pontificating about how they successfully stay within the rules, only to be found out for massive breaches in the long term, and a removal of titles! I can almost see the smoke from the bonfire in the southstand carpark as the second set of books is burned!'" I think GH's comments tell you all you need to know about Leeds and the cap! We don't brake it which makes our success all the more special. www.therhinos.co.uk/news/10794.php? now jog along bullscum