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| Quote: Head High Tackle "What does Bulls getting upset mean then?'"
No idea, its your thread. I was referring to the title of the thread on the Bulls board, to which Flyingprat was referring when starting this thread. The thread where the issue being debated (until Flyingprat tried to hijack it with another of his regular anti-Bull vomitfests) was the reported £8m settlement to Leeds rugby UNION to buy themselves out of what was assumed to be the team sponsorship deal. I at least was concerned as a taxpayer.
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| Quote: Adeybull "No idea, its your thread. I was referring to the title of the thread on the Bulls board, to which Flyingprat was referring when starting this thread. The thread where the issue being debated (until Flyingprat tried to hijack it with another of his regular anti-Bull vomitfests) was the reported £8m settlement to Leeds rugby UNION to buy themselves out of what was assumed to be the team sponsorship deal.'"
The deal wasn't just a sponsorship deal though they bought a stake in the union side when they were re-branded Leeds Carnegie.
Plus lets not forget the Education facility they use full time in the Carnegie stand.
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| Quote: Adeybull "No idea, its your thread.'"
Not my thread guv.
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| Quote: Head High Tackle "Not my thread guv.'"
"Yours" as in Southstander's. I made it clear who started the thread.
Looks like the semantics police are out in force tonight.
For rhinoms: whether it was sponsorship or actually buying into the side, it does not really change the argument IMO. I still can't see what business a university has in either activity on this sort of scale. The Hudds Uni deal with the Fart owners is on a much smaller scale and I think may be far more proportionate (as well as being money coming into RL which I'd anyway be reluctant to knock). And I don't think anyone has been making an issue over Leeds Met's investment in bricks and mortar facilities for sporting and education purposes - that is much more within a Uni's remit, especially one with the long sporting tradition that Leeds Met has via the former Carnegie College.
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| Quote: Adeybull ""Yours" as in Southstander's. I made it clear who started the thread.
Looks like the semantics police are out in force tonight.
For rhinoms
That's down to those that run the buisness side of the uni and doesn't have anything to do with Leeds Carnegie or anything else they choose to invest in!
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| Quote: Adeybull "
Looks like the semantics police are out in force tonight.'"
Oh wind your neck in you miserable feck.
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| Quote: Adeybull "No idea, its your thread. I was referring to the title of the thread on the Bulls board, to which Flyingprat was referring when starting this thread. The thread where the issue being debated (until Flyingprat tried to hijack it with another of his regular anti-Bull vomitfests) was the reported £8m settlement to Leeds rugby UNION to buy themselves out of what was assumed to be the team sponsorship deal. I at least was concerned as a taxpayer.'"
It wasn't a sponsorship deal. It was team ownership. Carnegie bought the Tykes off us (or a majority share), realised what a money pit they were and paid us £8 million to take them back.
Don't you wish Hetherington were running your club?
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| Quote: Adeybull "No idea, its your thread. I was referring to the title of the thread on the Bulls board, to which Flyingprat was referring when starting this thread. The thread where the issue being debated (until Flyingprat tried to hijack it with another of his regular anti-Bull vomitfests) was the reported £8m settlement to Leeds rugby UNION to buy themselves out of what was assumed to be the team sponsorship deal. I at least was concerned as a taxpayer.'"
But unconcerned as a Taxpayer when it involves the Bulls playing in a brand new stadium!!! oops
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| Quote: G1 "It wasn't a sponsorship deal. It was team ownership. Carnegie bought the Tykes off us (or a majority share), realised what a money pit they were and paid us £8 million to take them back.
Don't you wish Hetherington were running your club?
Amounts to the same thing in my book...still an inappropriate use of public money.
I suspect many taxpayers would put Hetherington into the same category as investment bankers, reading what you said. As for him running the Bulls...I think the history books will record who won out between Caisley and Hetherington. I don't like the way either do or did business, but its unlikely that the Bulls would be in their current situation had the roles been reversed.
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| Quote: FLYINGPROP "But unconcerned as a Taxpayer when it involves the Bulls playing in a brand new stadium!!! oops
Its getting quite wearing owning you after every on of your dumbass posts, and I won't trouble the locals on here by doing it yet again. I've shown you up for the prat and hypocrite you are over on RAB, and no amount of submission smileys after your posts will change that.
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| Quote: G1 "
Don't you wish Hetherington were running your club?
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Did you actually ask that question?
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| Quote: Adeybull "Amounts to the same thing in my book...still an inappropriate use of public money.
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In your opinion.
Which of course you voiced to the relevant authority at the time the deal was done, it being a very public deal and reported on widely at the time.
You did register your concern didn't you ?
You do understand what the Uni got out of the deal as a business don't you ?
Whilst many of his staff may not have liked him there is no doubt that Simon Lee attempted to run the university as a business rather than the traditional "We'll just spend all the government grant and wait for the students to turn up" traditional University model, it upset those traditionalist academics but thats what happens when those who do not have to measure their salary by means of customer sales suddenly wake up in the real world.
Did you object to them sponsoring (and possibly saving) the Challenge Cup too or is that a different sort of public money ?
You did object to all of this at the time didn't you ?
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| Quote: Adeybull "I suspect many taxpayers would put Hetherington into the same category as investment bankers, '" Well, the "bank" Hetherington works for is doing very, very well so its' not a particularly good analogy at the moment in time.
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| Quote: McLaren_Field "In your opinion.
Which of course you voiced to the relevant authority at the time the deal was done, it being a very public deal and reported on widely at the time.
You did register your concern didn't you ?
You do understand what the Uni got out of the deal as a business don't you ?
Whilst many of his staff may not have liked him there is no doubt that Simon Lee attempted to run the university as a business rather than the traditional "We'll just spend all the government grant and wait for the students to turn up" traditional University model, it upset those traditionalist academics but thats what happens when those who do not have to measure their salary by means of customer sales suddenly wake up in the real world.
Did you object to them sponsoring (and possibly saving) the Challenge Cup too or is that a different sort of public money ?
You did object to all of this at the time didn't you ?'" There's a lot of concern being voice [iright now[/i, some time after the event by indignant, Rugby League, non-Leeds supporting, tax payers, that much is for sure.
I'll give Adey-bull the benefit of the doubt but I suspect much of this is motivated by jealousy that their club hasn'#t fostered the same kind of partnership that Leeds have with Carnegie.
You know what, I am a tax payer and I don't mind my tax money being spent for the benefit of Rugby League and sports in general. I get more benefit from that than if they spent it on the Arts, immigration or Moat maintenance for Tory Peers.
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| Quote: Ewwenorfolk "Did you actually ask that question?'" The question mark at the end was a bit of a give away.
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