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| Quote ="Dave Heron's Moustache"I can almost hear a violin playing in the background when I'm reading that.
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LOL thanks for proving my point...
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| Quote ="thebloodbath"I'll gladly put the boot into Graham.
I've mentioned how Leeds pack did a job on him and the fact that Leeds always manage to wind him up. And also for the man with the mouth, when the fighting starts he doesnt get involved. Cherry on the cake was the refusal to shake hands. Unlike KC who was superb in that area.
I've had a few chuckles over him this weekend, but when I watched the game in full again, all the above still counts, but he still kept carting that ball up. He kept getting bashed around and was down on his knees a few times, but he still kept coming for more. Which is what i like to see.
His head went again though....again!'"
Have to agree with you, his work rate and willingness to go forward are admirable. Being petulant and childish is less attractive.
Having said all that, if Graham wants to be considered the best prop in the comp, he needs to make a difference in the big games like Friday and on the international stage. I am yet to see him do either.
I have to say that Leeds were deliberately roughing Saints up toward the end of the game but, it's a tactic that has worked very well to our advantage in the recent past. If they have a soft underbelly, they should expect to see it get hit.
Having watched the chicken wing tackle several times now, I am in some doubt as to whether or not it was deliberate. Never the less, it was dangerous and predictably so, therefore, JJB should receive a ban.
To the idiot above who keeps banging on about Webb's "grapple" tackle. If you think that was deliberate, clearly you have never played the game or, if you have, you have been left with very little understanding how easy it is to make that kind of mistake.
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| Quote ="smileysaint"LOL thanks for proving my point...'"
Maybe you should change your user name to [icrybabysaint[/i?
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| Quote ="Dave Heron's Moustache"Maybe you should change your user name to [icrybabysaint[/i?'"
Bet you feel really clever now don't you. LOL
You would be better joing the TL;DR group rather than just post what you obviously find to be amusing comments.
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| Quote ="Ronzy"Have to agree with you, his work rate and willingness to go forward are admirable. Being petulant and childish is less attractive.
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Good overall tie up of the thread.
Nothing more needs adding, lock it!! 
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| Quote ="smileysaint"Bet you feel really clever now don't you. LOL
You would be better joing the TL;DR group rather than just post what you obviously find to be amusing comments.'"
I suppose you are going to refuse to shake my hand at the end of the thread now. 
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| Quote ="Dave Heron's Moustache"I suppose you are going to refuse to shake my hand at the end of the thread now.
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LOL why.
You showed yourself up not me...
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| Quote ="smileysaint"LOL why.
You showed yourself up not me...'"
No he didn't.
You were the one who looked foolish.
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| Quote ="Head High Tackle"No he didn't.
You were the one who looked foolish.'"
Then you too need to grow up...
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| Quote ="Dave Heron's Moustache"Actually it was the other way around (if you are referring to the incident where Bailey took the ball from a tap and had to run all the way across the pitch, sideways to the centre spot to find where Mr Graham was doing the hiding), but feel free to perpetuate that particualar myth.'"
I disagree, from what i saw Graham got the better of him that day (I wasn't the only one who thought that from who i watched the game with); i can't prove this with a 70s style montage but just mentioning my opinion. Im not a Saints fan so i'm not bothered getting into a bicker.
As for a prop "hiding" on the centre spot. Front row forwards defend in the middle of the field.
Anyway, you're all right about Graham biting too quickly on the pitch. Until he can shrug off other teams trying to wind him up, as morley can at the moment, he'll be targetted by teams looking to put him off his game.
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| Quote ="smileysaint"Then you too need to grow up...'"
Bless you. How do you cope in the real world?
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| Quote ="Lights_Out"
As for a prop "hiding" on the centre spot. Front row forwards defend in the middle of the field.
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You're right, so why was Graham "hiding" in the centres at the time?
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| Quote ="The Nihilist"You're right, so why was Graham "hiding" in the centres at the time?'"
Not sure, but he was thankful for dark coloured shorts.
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| Quote ="The Nihilist"You're right, so why was Graham "hiding" in the centres at the time?'"
Centres? He was in the middle of the pitch!
Now if you want to see hiding, check out Bailey only making maybe 1 more run all game after running sideways to get smashed, whilst Graham set up the match winning try. And Bailey (out on the wing!) dropping the ball looking to the oncoming defenders.
I think it's fait to say Graham hasn't gone hiding once in his career, he takes the ball up twice a set a lot of the time! Not sure the same can be said of Bailey. . . .

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| Quote ="FearTheVee"I think it's fait to say Graham hasn't gone hiding once in his career'"
Maybe not. Bailey has never left the field stamping his feet in floods of tears and paddying to the opposition coach though.
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| Quote ="Head High Tackle"Maybe not. Bailey has never left the field stamping his feet in floods of tears and paddying to the opposition coach though.'"
True, he saves his stamping for outside nightclubs 
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"True, he saves his stamping for outside nightclubs
'" O-Lay!!
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"True, he saves his stamping for outside nightclubs
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Touche.
I think if you were to ask any Rhinos fan with an ounce of rugby knowledge they would all prefer to have Graham than Bailey, regardless of what some posters think of Bailey's attributes.
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"O-Lay!!'"
Sorry, couldn't resist
Anyway, roll on the playoffs.
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"True, he saves his stamping for outside nightclubs
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That was as easy as falling off a wall, allegedly...
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Quote ="Lights_Out"I disagree, from what i saw Graham got the better of him that day (I wasn't the only one who thought that from who i watched the game with); i can't prove this with a 70s style montage but just mentioning my opinion. Im not a Saints fan so i'm not bothered getting into a bicker.
As for a prop "hiding" on the centre spot. Front row forwards defend in the middle of the field.
Anyway, you're all right about Graham biting too quickly on the pitch. Until he can shrug off other teams trying to wind him up, as morley can at the moment, he'll be targetted by teams looking to put him off his game.'"
Maybe this will refresh the memory.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7-et6E8ptg
About 6 mins in (after Saint Kieron has tried to pull Luke Burgess's head off) Leeds get a penalty. After mouthing off at Bailey from the moment he came on does Graham take the opportunity to smash Bailey as he takes the hit up from the tap? No. Bailey actually runs across the pitch to find him. If you carry on 30 seconds or so, you will see when Graham does take his chance to smash Bailey - when he's got his back to him and held up by two other Saints defenders.
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Quote ="Lights_Out"I disagree, from what i saw Graham got the better of him that day (I wasn't the only one who thought that from who i watched the game with); i can't prove this with a 70s style montage but just mentioning my opinion. Im not a Saints fan so i'm not bothered getting into a bicker.
As for a prop "hiding" on the centre spot. Front row forwards defend in the middle of the field.
Anyway, you're all right about Graham biting too quickly on the pitch. Until he can shrug off other teams trying to wind him up, as morley can at the moment, he'll be targetted by teams looking to put him off his game.'"
Maybe this will refresh the memory.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7-et6E8ptg
About 6 mins in (after Saint Kieron has tried to pull Luke Burgess's head off) Leeds get a penalty. After mouthing off at Bailey from the moment he came on does Graham take the opportunity to smash Bailey as he takes the hit up from the tap? No. Bailey actually runs across the pitch to find him. If you carry on 30 seconds or so, you will see when Graham does take his chance to smash Bailey - when he's got his back to him and held up by two other Saints defenders.
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| Quote ="Head High Tackle"Maybe not. Bailey has never left the field stamping his feet in floods of tears and paddying to the opposition coach though.'"
Whereabouts on the foot stamping scale does throwing your shirt at the floor/bench rate? Or is that a different scale altogether?
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| Having watched those few minutes of footage, it does come to mind that what Webb did to Eastmond was no worse than what Cunningham did to Burgess, or if it was 'worse' it wasnt far off the same thing.
It's funny to watch that whole Graham / Bailey incident again. Graham came on and before he even did anything got told by the ref to calm down.
Biff like that makes RL what it is.
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| Quote ="RossRhino"Having watched those few minutes of footage, it does come to mind that what Webb did to Eastmond was no worse than what Cunningham did to Burgess, or if it was 'worse' it wasnt far off the same thing..'"
So what you're saying is that all the Saints lads should have rushed in and over-reacted like the Rhinos lot did on that night in March? ? ?
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