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| Quote: craigizzard "Agree about Ward and Watkins (how did Ward get MoM, I thought Stevo had retired?) but Briscoe particularly in the second half came looking for work, made more drives and yards than most of the forwards, and got us on the front foot with quick ptbs and penalties. In a game where he was given absolutely no wingers' opportunities I thought he did really well. As well as pulling off a match-saving tackle after the whole of the rest of the right edge had been taken in my their centre's inside ball.
I see a couple are calling him out, and I wouldn't say he's always a favourite of mine, but on the night I disagree.'"
Plenty of appetite for work, couple of tackle busts, nearly always isn't grounded or finds his front, resulting in a quick ptb.
Like you say, with little othe 'winger' opportunity what else could we have asked of him tonight?
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| JJB looks far from finished. I thought baring a couple of dumb penalties, his performance was heroic.
I thought Ward was good in the first half, but was nowhere near MOM. Again, I think the criticism of Sutcliffe is harsh, but I'm now convinced he should be a loose forward
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| Quote: Gotcha "Thought Walters tried really hard, but not sure there is a worse player in Super League. He is almost comical, the way he spends most of his time sliding on his backside, or diving at thin air.'"
he does somehow make a simple tackle look spectacular.
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| Quote: craigizzard "Agree about Ward and Watkins (how did Ward get MoM, I thought Stevo had retired?) but Briscoe particularly in the second half came looking for work, made more drives and yards than most of the forwards, and got us on the front foot with quick ptbs and penalties. In a game where he was given absolutely no wingers' opportunities I thought he did really well. As well as pulling off a match-saving tackle after the whole of the rest of the right edge had been taken in my their centre's inside ball.
I see a couple are calling him out, and I wouldn't say he's always a favourite of mine, but on the night I disagree.'"
He made yards, a lot of them sideways though, he was one of the first to knock on in that 2nd half and his wasn't even forced. Nothing attempt for their first try. He got the sin binning that was more to do with a Leugh players stupidity and it was a bit cringeworthy his footballers dive.
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| Quote: ThePrinter "He made yards, a lot of them sideways though, he was one of the first to knock on in that 2nd half and his wasn't even forced. Nothing attempt for their first try. He got the sin binning that was more to do with a Leugh players stupidity and it was a bit cringeworthy his footballers dive.'"
Briscoe did dive, and it was a little embarrassing but only as embarrassing as the ref needing two chances to give that decision, though his was the worst performance on the field.
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| Quote: Gotcha "Thought Walters tried really hard, but not sure there is a worse player in Super League. He is almost comical, the way he spends most of his time sliding on his backside, or diving at thin air.'"
He didn't do that tonight though, and was safe with the ball. Like you say, can't fault his effort, and maybe I give him too much credit for that. (I blame Achurch for that).
In terms of worse players in SL, I raise you Mullaly based on tonight's performance, and Scott Grix has always been a favourite of mine when it comes to this conversation.
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| It's alright him criticising the attack but what's he coaching? He's the coach and should be setting the structure, we have none. We're such a boring team to watch.
We need someone on the coaching staff who played in the backs at a good level
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| Id also add, Leigh against a side which only played for 25min and a few welcome decisions from the ref couldnt win, with Saints, Wigan, Hudds, Wire, next up might very easily find themselves with a lot of pressure on them to get 3 or 4 wins from their Wakefield, Widnes, Les Catalans (home), Salford run or they might find themselves out of the running.
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| Mullally getting some hammer despite very few minutes also during his spell the whole team was on the back foot.
Simply put we have no structure in attack & when under pressure our lack of composure to set up to kick early is appalling as is our criminal use of Watkins & co.
Mcguire had very little impact so that myth can be put to bed for now.
A long tough season awaits & the need for big changes gathers pace.
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| Quote: RHINO-MARK "Mullally getting some hammer despite very few minutes also during his spell the whole team was on the back foot.'"
I was thinking that tbh. Everybody was garbage that first 8/9 minutes.
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| Thought Ablett was very good tonight. My MOM by a country mile. Wish the pudding Vea would have passed the ball and got the win for us. Good luck for the rest of the season
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| Quote: craigizzard "Incredibly poor second half, no attacking teamwork whatsoever except the relationship between Parcell and Cuthbertson, which looks promising, but then you need halves/fullback to back them up.
Ablett MoM. Cuthbertson and Singleton really good but they had to be, and were shattered in the last quarter. No surprise as McD obviously doesn't trust our other middle forwards, and that's a massive failure of either coaching or recruitment.
Saved by defensive plays by Keinhorst and Briscoe, who were two of our better players, Briscoe in particular.
Negatives...game management...all the intelligence seems to have left the club with Sinfield. None of the three halves were any good, but it's weird that the worst of them, the one who looks like a carthorse loose-forward, was the only one to get 80. Yes, it was a great 40-20 (and drop goal) but that doesn't make up for the rest of the performance. And he will never, ever, ever be a goalkicker.
The other problem with the halves is lack of support from fullback. I know we had that to an extent with Hardaker, but at least he backed up or joined the line. Golding's defence, ball security and positioning was again very good but at a time when fullbacks are being used as extra halves, he got involved in attacking plays presicesly zero times. Whether that's down to him or to the really strange McDermott structure, I don't know.
Also JJB looks finished.'"
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| Briscoe was awful tonight by his standards can do much better jjb was immense as usual along with abo and ward they led the defence that got us the points mate have you ever played rugby league?
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| Ward (48 tackles) and JJB (43) did the most work in defense and the later drove the ball in well too and I think he was off the field when they made their come back in the second half. I thought Keinhorst's once again scored a crucial try and made a crucial tackle and Parcell looks sharp on the break. Ablett got through a lot of good work too but with the exception of Cuthbertson in the first half our props were below average. Burrow was our best attacker and was missed in the second half when he was off. A couple of nice touches from Mags but he did not look match fit and credit to Sutcliffe for his 40/20 and drop goal and he also ran in hard but too often ran when he should have passed and looked more like a backrower that a back and never a 6.
Our right wing combo looked slow and vulnerable in defence and non existent in attack. We were without 4 first choices injured players and a not match fit McGuire so there will be improvement to come. But the overwhelming problem is the lack of an organizer who can kick.
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| Quote: Juan Cornetto "But the overwhelming problem is the lack of an organizer who can kick.'"
I think it's our lack of structure as well...which would be helped with an organiser. But the coaching team need to look in the mirror. The team don't look drilled. Compare them to Cas in attack and we're miles behind
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