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Quote: G1 "These comments regarding Burrow are laughable and predictable.

The tactic of starting Burrow at 9 then moving him to the halves has been very successful. Problem was, we didn't use it last night because McShane was hooked by the coach who then didn't trust him enough to put him back on.

This meant that it was all on McGuires shoulders, Melbourne cleverly paying Kevin heavy attention'"


"cleverly" ?.....would have thought that should have been basics?

Burrow is undoubtedly a potential match winner (pity he picked last night to knock on when 99 times out of a hundred he would have scored).....but his perhaps unique abilities are best utilised by him being complemented by a more conventional hooker. If McShane doesn't command enough faith in that role then the club needs to find another Lunt soon. Would Hood be the better option at least in the short term? Let's hope he is at least given the opportunity (perhaps he should have a holiday in Oz first including paying for his own fare back and then asking the club for a trial in an Aussie accent?) icon_biggrin.gif

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For me personally mcshane isn't a good enough hooker for Leeds. Granted it only my opinion from the limited game time I have seen him play, but if the coach doesn't have faith in him to perform we should cut our losses and get shot. He is a waste of a spot if the coach doesn't trust him enough to put him back on.

Regarding the results there can be no complaints the best team won. Thought maguire was carrying an injury for most of the game. And the good targeting of sinfield by the storm cut our options. Personally I think burrow is best used alongside a good hooker who can actually be trusted to play some good game time. Don't think burrow is best used hooking for the full 80. Needs to interchange and can then move into the halves ie with buderus and Lunt. Not seen too much of hood, but think I would have a hooker at the top of my shopping list if I was mac.

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And regarding England at the end of the season. I know it's only one game but Widdop looked very poor and for me not good enough to get the England 6 shirt

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Thing is, for the last decade we've been very spoiled in the hooking roll, Diskin then Buderus.

Lunt did a reasonable job last year so expectations for the 9 shirt are pretty high and on last night's performance McShane isn't reaching the level we've come to expect.

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Quote: Ferdy "And regarding England at the end of the season. I know it's only one game but Widdop looked very poor and for me not good enough to get the England 6 shirt'"

Sinfield didn't look good enough either.

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Quote: William Eve "Sinfield didn't look good enough either.'"


Didn't have a great game agreed my main point being doesn't look good for the end of the year

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Quote: William Eve "Sinfield didn't look good enough either.'"


He would've looked pretty good if he was in Widdop's position of playing at 6 for Melbourne, whereas Widdop (who did play there) didn't.

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Quote: ThePrinter "He would've looked pretty good if he was in Widdop's position of playing at 6 for Melbourne, whereas Widdop (who did play there) didn't.'"

Sinfield would look ridiculous in a Melbourne shirt. I cannot imagine Craig Bellamy coaching a team built around Sinfield when they have genuine world class players like Smith and Cronk who are able to control the team and dictate play to a much higher standard.

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Quote: William Eve "Sinfield would look ridiculous in a Melbourne shirt. I cannot imagine Craig Bellamy coaching a team built around Sinfield when they have genuine world class players like Smith and Cronk who are able to control the team and dictate play to a much higher standard.'"


I too can't imagine that Bellamy would build a team around Sinfield, but he would've still played much much better than Widdop did. Probably wouldn't have fluffed the conversion to the Harris try like Smith did that put his team under extra unnecessary pressure by not gving them a full score advantage and could've cost his team had Leeds got over near the end icon_smile.gif

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William Eve,if Leeds ever played to perefection you would still be a Troll

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Quote: ThePrinter "I too can't imagine that Bellamy would build a team around Sinfield, but he would've still played much much better than Widdop did.'"

He wouldn't get a spot in the Melbourne team because he isn't good enough. No world class coach would select a player so overbearing and demanding of control when there are far better players like Smith and Cronk available to do just that.

Quote: ThePrinter "Probably wouldn't have fluffed the conversion to the Harris try like Smith did that put his team under extra unnecessary pressure by not gving them a full score advantage and could've cost his team had Leeds got over near the end It wasn't the first time that Sinfield displayed his inability to control and dictate games against Australian teams which lie outside his SL comfort zone and... unfortunately... it won't be the last.

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One thing which struck me was how quiet the crowd were. Being a Nordstander this is not something I particularly care about but I thought the folks over on the other side prided themselves on getting behind the team? Trailing by only 4 points down for a chunk of the second half and yet it was virtually silent?

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Quote: William Eve "Sinfield would look ridiculous in a Melbourne shirt. I cannot imagine Craig Bellamy coaching a team built around Sinfield when they have genuine world class players like Smith and Cronk who are able to control the team and dictate play to a much higher standard.'"


I'd really like to know how you can qualify this statement?

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Quote: ThePrinter "It's not that coaches DON'T want Burrow to defend down the middle, it's because they know it would be bloody suicidal to do that. .'"


Disagree. Burrow has in the past defended down the middle and did it well and it was not suicide....remember he is a good tackler. However when he does this the opposition run at him to tire him out and to lessen his match winning abilities. I maintain the coaches have worked out a way to play Burrow at the breakdown for distribution and attack and out wide on defense thereby keeping a key man on the field for the full 80 so they do it for positive reasons and not negative ones.

Quote: ThePrinter "And I agree, McShane isn't a better player than Burrow but that doesn't mean he can't be brought on in place of him for 20 mins or so and offer something DIFFERENT, note the try Ablett scored in the GF set up by Lunt, that is something you're more likely to see from McShane than Burrow. .'"


I agree with you in principal and I am sure that could happen if McShane were to be relied upon to give that regular impact off the bench. As it is, the risk of not having Burrow on the field is too high because he is one of our main strike players. So when McShane comes on (and Lunt came on) it is usually for a back rower.

Quote: ThePrinter "And also how I wrote in another post, sometimes having them on together will work, but sometimes it won't. JJB could've been easily swapped with Clarkson instead. As you said 'they pick a pack full of tacklers'.....yes they do but then sub off a tackler for an extra hooker. And no McShane didn't cover himself in glory in defence but as was mentioned, he is asked to defend a different position to Burrow..'"


Agree with you re

Again I agree with you in principal. However you do want your best players on the park for the maximum time possible particularly the ones with the best rugby skills. We have several of the first choices who have great stamina and only need a short break if indeed any, so equal use of the subs is not a given in my view and I do not subcribe to the belief that you always have to use them all... as the state of the game and the form and fitness of those of the field at a point in time can overide the original game plan.

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Quote: nantwichexile "I'm not throwing a brick....just making an observation that I felt should be commented on. He made mistakes this time. Are you suggesting the coach should be spared all criticism at all times because of past successes and glories?
The coach is responsible for the utilisation of his subs is he not? Do you think he used them wisely?
I ask you again what are these weak coaching decisions you speak of? Why does it always have to be the coaches fault if we lose?

I would have used the bench differently but that is not to say it would have changed the result.

We played the best side from the NRL who were ready and up for it. On the night the players made some errors and we were second best. Their line speed in defence (with occassional generous offside judgements from the ref) was impressive and our PLBĀ“s too slow (We missed Bailey in this respect and didn't struggle enough to get up quickly) They marked out key players better than we did theirs. We fluffed 12 points and gifted them 6 maybe 12 points. Yet despite all this, and not being at our sharpest, the difference at the whistle was just 2 penalties that we chose not to take. I can live with that

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