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| IIRC Duckworth and Briscoe signed for Hunslet and Tonks, Foster, Minns & Baldwinson signed for Fev. All 1 year contracts. Not loans or DR. If that's true then they have left Leeds and are Hunslet or Fev players for 2015.
Again going off my admittedly hazy memory, I think at least Baldwinson, Tonks and Foster all had agreed a deal with Leeds for 2016 too.
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| There is an easy way round this, just bring back A team rugby and players won't be loanded as much.
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| Quote: Him "IIRC Duckworth and Briscoe signed for Hunslet and Tonks, Foster, Minns & Baldwinson signed for Fev. All 1 year contracts. Not loans or DR. If that's true then they have left Leeds and are Hunslet or Fev players for 2015. '"
That is correct sir, any why Fev and Hunslet won't be in any trouble.
I don't agree with it but thems the rules.
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| Quote: Wheels "That is correct sir, any why Fev and Hunslet won't be in any trouble.
I don't agree with it but thems the rules.'"
Bit OT but any idea what's going to happen with York and the new stadium? I saw the stadium got approved but Ive lost track of the ins and outs of York City Knights position in it all.
Or should I call them the York Suicide Bats? ![Smile icon_smile.gif](images/smilies//icon_smile.gif)
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| Quote: Him "Bit OT but any idea what's going to happen with York and the new stadium? I saw the stadium got approved but Ive lost track of the ins and outs of York City Knights position in it all.
Or should I call them the York Suicide Bats?
All hail York Suicide Bats RLFC! ![Very Happy icon_biggrin.gif](images/smilies//icon_biggrin.gif)
The stadium is getting built and will be open at the back end of 2016. If YCK want to be in it, they have to get their egotistical maniac of a Chairman out of the club ASAP.
Either he sells so we can crack on, move in to Bootham Crescent and start building towards a place in the middle 8s.
Or he carries on until the club folds very soon, then we can crack on, move in to Bootham Crescent and start building towards a place in the middle 8s, albeit probably starting on -6 points.
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| By announcing that the players on 1 year contracts with either Hunslet or Fev are under contract for Leeds next season, are they not trying to get round the rules? They may have shot themselves in the foot with that one and may have been better keeping it hush hush.
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| Quote: Greg Florimos Boots "By announcing that the players on 1 year contracts with either Hunslet or Fev are under contract for Leeds next season, are they not trying to get round the rules? They may have shot themselves in the foot with that one and may have been better keeping it hush hush.'"
So better to be duplicitous or at the very least economical with the truth?
It all smacks of sour grapes to me.
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| Quote: Greg Florimos Boots "By announcing that the players on 1 year contracts with either Hunslet or Fev are under contract for Leeds next season, are they not trying to get round the rules? They may have shot themselves in the foot with that one and may have been better keeping it hush hush.'"
Oh there's no doubt they are getting AROUND the rules, but they aren't BREAKING any rules so no problem.
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| Quote: ThePrinter "Oh there's no doubt they are getting AROUND the rules, but they aren't BREAKING any rules so no problem.'"
Leeds are not breaking rules, but Fev and Hunslet probably are.
But how does the rugby league sanction moves and then look into them later?
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| How are Fev and Hunslet breaking any rules? From their point of view they've signed some players on one year contracts.
If we're being honest its highly unlikely all (most?) of the players concerned will actually come back to Leeds anyway.
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| Quote: BrisbaneRhino "How are Fev and Hunslet breaking any rules? From their point of view they've signed some players on one year contracts.
If we're being honest its highly unlikely all (most?) of the players concerned will actually come back to Leeds anyway.'"
Because at least three are contracted to Leeds into 2016. So the question how does the RFL confirm a move if it is not a loan? A loan that at the time of the announcement was said a loan?
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| Quote: Gotcha "Because at least three are contracted to Leeds into 2016. So the question how does the RFL confirm a move if it is not a loan? A loan that at the time of the announcement was said a loan?'"
The RFL registers every player contract, partly to ensure the club has the right amount of homegrown/overseas players and to ensure other things like visas are in place and they fit in the salary cap.
Since these players have been playing you would have to assume the RFL accepted the registration of these contracts for Fev and Hunslet.
If they were accepted at the time, I don't see how the RFL could punish the club's now. If the contracts weren't in order or the RFL didn't like them for some reason they shouldn't have registered the players and dealt with the issue at the time.
From what I've seen the players were announced as players being released and then signed by another club. Ie not a loan (as they aren't Leeds players for 2015) and not even a direct transfer.
The only difference to any other type of every day player signing is that they've signed a contract with Leeds for 2016. The same as the players that went to London last year did.
I'm still of the opinion that if the RFL don't want this to happen then put it in the rules and don't accept the contracts at the time. To "investigate" after the fact is just crazy.
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| Quote: Him "The RFL registers every player contract, partly to ensure the club has the right amount of homegrown/overseas players and to ensure other things like visas are in place and they fit in the salary cap.
Since these players have been playing you would have to assume the RFL accepted the registration of these contracts for Fev and Hunslet.
If they were accepted at the time, I don't see how the RFL could punish the club's now. If the contracts weren't in order or the RFL didn't like them for some reason they shouldn't have registered the players and dealt with the issue at the time.'"
In full agreement with you on. Not sure why it is been brought up as even if against the rules, the RFL surely must have agreed to, which is what I was saying.
Quote: Him "From what I've seen the players were announced as players being released and then signed by another club. Ie not a loan (as they aren't Leeds players for 2015) and not even a direct transfer.
The only difference to any other type of every day player signing is that they've signed a contract with Leeds for 2016. The same as the players that went to London last year did.'"
Where have you seen this? because that is exactly what I keep saying, I have not seen one single thing saying the players were released. I was sure the announcement at the time, rather than this last week, said they were loans.
I know that Frosties said last season that Duckworth had been released to Hunslet, and I questioned at the time it was a loan signing, so when it happened again for this season it seemed to back that up.
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| wigan sent burke i think on season long loan to bradford in the 2nd game and got injured and went straight back to wigan for rehad and never returned to bradford.hasnt this thing not been common practice for years.
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| Quote: Gotcha "In full agreement with you on. Not sure why it is been brought up as even if against the rules, the RFL surely must have agreed to, which is what I was saying.
Where have you seen this? because that is exactly what I keep saying, I have not seen one single thing saying the players were released. I was sure the announcement at the time, rather than this last week, said they were loans.
I know that Frosties said last season that Duckworth had been released to Hunslet, and I questioned at the time it was a loan signing, so when it happened again for this season it seemed to back that up.'"
Yep agree with that but I thought they were announced as signings by Hunslet and Fev rather than loans, admittedly that's going off my memory which isn't the best!
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