According to that theory Lionel Messi would never miss a penalty, Tiger Woods should never miss a 6 inch putt and an olympic long jumper would never foul jump. Messi was the worst player on the pitch the other night, yet he's cited as the best player in the world. He put a free kick 30 yards over the bar, how do you explain that. The ball is the same, the goalposts are the same size, and the wall is still 10 yards away, why did the worlds best player get the basics so wrong when 80,000 people had paid to see him ?

Bit difficult when you get ruled out for rlsix months with a shoulder injuryrl

Let me get this straight,Leeds are champions,playing decent rugby,but lose a game,so the world is coming to an end?
Okaaaaaay...............

There are no excuses coming from the club about last night , it was a shocker end of . Are Warrington fans calling for Smith to go after 2 losses in a week ? I doubt it . This thread is Knee-jerk of the highest order , embarrassing .

This is a proud bunch of players under a coach who has produced silverware and finals aplenty under his tenure and as such deserve a little slack after a poor performance .

To be beaten by a good side sitting top of the league and coming off a defeat where they had their pants royally pulled down by Bradford is no shame , how we react next week is what counts .

Yup. Thats how I see it.

With Messi you are talking about one piece of real high skill e.g. in RL 30 yards cut out pass for try - high risk, high reward. By its very nature prone to failure. Now let's compare eggs with eggs, Messi completing a simple pass to a team mate is an equivalent of McGuire's pass to Kirke or Watkins pick up from a kick through with no pressure. That is what I am talking about. Anyone who watched the warm up could see a lack of intensity/focus - when Vickery is kicking aimless bombs to no one it tells you something is wrong. I lost count of the number of dropped passes in the warm up.

Woods is 13 under par for two rounds this weekend - he is sometimes trying to hit a green 200+ yards away, he is not trying to catch a pass from two yards away. The performance of yesterday was not an off day, that is typical of the standard that Leeds have performed at over the past two season - neither Woods nor Messi have consistently delivered performances well below what is expected of an elite sportsman/men. The same cannot be said of this Rhinos side.

I keep saying this is entertainment nothing more - and in the entertainment business customers expect a certain standard of its top performers. If customers do not feel like they are getting value for money they will find other ways of spending it.

Can someone explain the criteria of McDermotts contract?

I am not asking for McDermott to go - I just want to see the quality of performance I saw against Melbourne on a more regular basis.

I fully agree with your comments and with others regarding entertainment etc .. I was merely giving my opinion on the OP demand for the coach to be sacked on the back of last night thats all .

The balance between Success and being entertainers is an hard act to perfect , just ask ask St Helens post 2006 .

...and that's the annoying thing. We know what this team is capable of and to compare last night's performance with the WCC and they're a million miles apart.

sal all fans want quality performances and on a more regular basis,after all this is the entertainment business,but due to the way that the play off system works at present we do not need to perform to this level on a regular basis unfortunately,this has been proved without a doubt these past 2 seasons has it not?

other sl sides like wigan and warrington have recently perfected the art of producing more quality performances for their demanding fans during the weekly rounds and have been rewarded with a shiny hub cap,but in doing so they subsequently ran themselves flat in the weekly rounds and had nothing left in the tank come play off time

i personally believe that we will see plenty more of these sub standard performances this season,but probably now more widespread across the board too as surely wigan and warrington must now realise that it's not how you start but how you finish

sal i am a season ticket holder too and one that shares your frustrations,i have often discussed this subject with the rhinos players when they have been in the stanningley club house and have been regularly told to judge them when the games that matter come around

under the current play off system they clearly have a point do they not?