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Is it just hindsight or is it a lack of foresight to release a player who offered so much versatility, experience and proven quality with potentially many productive years still left in front of him?

While you might suggest Leeds replaced Smith with Vickery I couldn't possibly comment as before he rocked up at Headingley I'd never heard of him - I doubt I'm alone. In much the same way as I'd never heard of Mark Wilkes and Rex Terp.

I can understand if Smith felt unloved at Leeds, Hetherington has always portrayed a take it or leave it mentality and it appears he has a coach formed from the same mould.

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Great to hear W55ARE i'd be happy to see him get a game if he's looking confident again because imo he oozed class for the Acadamy teams he played for.

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Quote: tvoc "Is it just hindsight or is it a lack of foresight to release a player who offered so much versatility, experience and proven quality with potentially many productive years still left in front of him?

While you might suggest Leeds replaced Smith with Vickery I couldn't possibly comment as before he rocked up at Headingley I'd never heard of him - I doubt I'm alone. In much the same way as I'd never heard of Mark Wilkes and Rex Terp.

I can understand if Smith felt unloved at Leeds, Hetherington has always portrayed a take it or leave it mentality and it appears he has a coach formed from the same mould.'"


Smith leaving sees him playing week-in week-out for Wakie in a settled role. Not the worst position for Smith.

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Few OTT reactions on here. Injuries are part and parcel. As luck has it at the moment our three-quarters have been black-listed.

Zak..Vickery..BJB. It happens.

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Quote: tvoc "If only Leeds had a versatile jack of all trades type player able to cover wing, centre, full-back, possibly even half-back and hooker.

Such a player (had he not been released to sign for Wakefield) would be worth his weight in bronze right now.'"


Yes we played Lee Smith at FB against Saints away last year. Anybody else remember how shocking he was that day?

Granted everyone (from memory, Stevie Ward on debut and Moore excluded) were poor, but Smith shone above the rest for being rubbish on that day.

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Leeds lost in the two games that book-ended Lee Smith's efforts in the starting full-back role but they also won 26 of the remaining 36 which some might note included a deserved Harry Sunderland winning performance as a late replacement for Brent Webb.

Sadly IMO Leeds no longer possess such a versatile asset.

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Quote: tvoc "Is it just hindsight or is it a lack of foresight to release a player who offered so much versatility, experience and proven quality with potentially many productive years still left in front of him?'"


We've been unlucky in that we've lost our first and second choice full backs to injury. In that context it could be argued that releasing Webb showed a similar lack of foresight too. Maybe some things just can't be foreseen.

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Webb's on field antics still leave a lot to be desired judging by his latest efforts at the Halliwell-Jones - and while McDermott/Hetherington made the right call they probably did so reluctantly having finally run out of patience with the player.

If they could have trained his mind as well as his body I think he'd still be here.

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Quote: thebloodbath "On the money there Gotcha. His pass to the right is no-where near as skilled/confident as it is to his left.

There was a few occasions where he didn't even scan to see what options he could feed his winger, so he took it up himself. Not all bad - he has a great blend of footwork and power, makes busting through look very easy.'"


.....and yet I remember him in a recent? (last season?) televised Sky match playing RC where he perfected a left step feign in and out with a lovely pass to his try scoring wingman.

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Quote: W55ARE "Watson has played 2 games for Hunslet and he was probably the Man of the Match in both if them. Yesterdays game against a good Featherstone, Watson did at least 6 try saving one-on-one tackles and scored a try of his own. His confidence is definately back. Don't forget Boxing Day was his first game since October and his first at FB at that level (others were on the wing).

He played out of his skin at Featherstone and is beginning to look too good for Hunslet (IMO); but my thoughts are if Rhinos are not going to play him now then they never will and its time he moved on to get game time.'"


Bluddy hell...if that's the case IMO there should be no hesitation with at least rewarding him with a bench spot this Friday. Personally with all the less than ideal options I would start him at FB, leaving Watkins to continue his development at RC.

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Quote: tvoc "Leeds lost in the two games that book-ended Lee Smith's efforts in the starting full-back role but they also won 26 of the remaining 36 which some might note included a deserved Harry Sunderland winning performance as a late replacement for Brent Webb.

Sadly IMO Leeds no longer possess such a versatile asset.'"

whilst we are at it we should bring in Leroy Rivett as wing cover, he won a lance todd

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Quote: tvoc "If only Leeds had a versatile jack of all trades type player able to cover wing, centre, full-back, possibly even half-back and hooker.

Such a player (had he not been released to sign for Wakefield) would be worth his weight in bronze right now.'"

Great example. A player who has missed the first three rounds with injury.

His weight, whatever it's worth, had recently been a lot greater than when he last earned individual bronze with us, 5 years ago wasn't it?

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Quote: nantwichexile "Bluddy hell...if that's the case IMO there should be no hesitation with at least rewarding him with a bench spot this Friday. Personally with all the less than ideal options I would start him at FB, leaving Watkins to continue his development at RC.'"


That would be my personal opinion. Look at tomkins. He got his chance through injury and never looked back. That said the coach see the players all week and will make the right call

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Quote: G1 "Great example. A player who has missed the first three rounds with injury. '"


Great example but timing maybe a little suspect this early in the seaon.

He was available this week. A little unlucky not to sore the winner against the league leaders, although the pass from Tim Smith could well have been forward.

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Smith can't complain about having a lack of opportunities since he returned from Union.

Many of his latter appearances in a Leeds jersey he looked slow, unfit and disinterested. Can't say I've seen anything from him at Wakefield to make me think Leeds got it wrong.

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