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[b:x70mwo3o]my girlfriend says i'm immature, and it's time we set aside one day a week so we can talk things through as adults. like THAT'S gonna happen in the middle of conker season!![/b:x70mwo3o]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_51886.jpg



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About time someone smelled the coffee, well said

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[b:x70mwo3o]my girlfriend says i'm immature, and it's time we set aside one day a week so we can talk things through as adults. like THAT'S gonna happen in the middle of conker season!![/b:x70mwo3o]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_51886.jpg



Quote: Norman Stanley Fletcher "

I almost feel sorry for the average glassblower but to progress and move forward the only way they can survive is to merge with Wakefield and have one community stadium in the Wakefiel MDC district.'"



the merger idea is the refuge of the feeble minded and will happen 1 week after you merge with bradford.
I have stated before , I would sooner watch Cas in the Yorkshire league than lose the club to a stupid idea such as the M word, and a few Wakey supporters I have spoken to feel the same about trinity.

Would you sooner have a home game against Cas, with all the rivalry that comes with it, or another meaningless fixture against Toulouse with no away supporters to take the out of, and get a bit back now and again.
Having rival supporters at the game is the essence of sport and makes the experience more enjoyable, It appears to me that the RFL dont want that rivalry but would prefer empty stadia as last week with the gallant 1122 at the crusaders game.
They are killing this sport

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[b:1swa1vwo]Change is inevitable ...except from a vending machine![/b:1swa1vwo] [quote="BillyRhino":1swa1vwo]So in best IA mode ..<.Possibley World Class, could be the greatest thing since sliced bread....am personally very excited, and confidently expect him to prove my predictions are bang on target.... Alternatively he could be rubbish> IA mode off. :wink:[/quote:1swa1vwo]:33791.jpg



Quote: ambernotyeller "but Wakefield are only applying for outline in sept, something that cas already have, according to the wakey board , full planning will be submitted after outline planning has been granted, and a few of them are worried about that due to the so called nimbys and the highways sticking their oar in. guess we will have to wait and see'"


Look, I am not doing this with you again on this board as well as the Wakey one. You know that, as I live in Stanley, I have been actively supporting the Newmarket Development and debunking some of the NIMBY rubbish, to be fair I fully support the Glasshoughton one but don't I live near that one, but my professional opinion and gut feeling is telling me that Newmarket is looking like it will get moving before the end of this year. The Cas development might have outline and RW might have appointed an Architects practise to work on a detailed planning application BUT there are some significant hurdles in the way of the Cas new ground development, the least of which is not having a large part of the money!

I think Newmarket will get outline planning in September, and despite the NIMBY's trying to convince people otherwise I also think that the likelihood of it getting called in are getting slimmer and slimmer and that will be that, the NIMBY's might launch an appeal but in the meantime Yorkcourt can start the enabling works and when they lose the appeal a detailed application will be submitted immediately (it also having been prepared during the appeal) and Wakefield (well the community trust) can wave a signed contract in the RFL's face and possibly even show them the new road and foundations being put down for the actual stadium by them!

I might be wrong, it happens, but not that often! icon_wink.gif

I am not putting Cas down, they are trying their best but I can't help feeling they are fighting the clock a little more than Wakey but both their current positions are dodgy!

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[b:1swa1vwo]Change is inevitable ...except from a vending machine![/b:1swa1vwo] [quote="BillyRhino":1swa1vwo]So in best IA mode ..<.Possibley World Class, could be the greatest thing since sliced bread....am personally very excited, and confidently expect him to prove my predictions are bang on target.... Alternatively he could be rubbish> IA mode off. :wink:[/quote:1swa1vwo]:33791.jpg



Quote: ambernotyeller "but Wakefield are only applying for outline in sept, something that cas already have, according to the wakey board , full planning will be submitted after outline planning has been granted, and a few of them are worried about that due to the so called nimbys and the highways sticking their oar in. guess we will have to wait and see'"


Sorry meant to add, you are placing too much emphasis on the Newmarket development only going for outline planning. Outline planning on a large development like this one is the key, the detailed is (and I over simplify a little) all about deciding on final layouts, fire escapes, disabled toilets, landscaping and what colour the cladding is going to be! Also, on a development of this size they will be many detailed applications probably one for each of the new units as, and when Yorkcourt find people willing to buy/lease the proposed units, exactly as happened at Glasshoughton over the last 5+ years.

When you have outlining planning to build a new stadium and lots of industrial units over a 10 year period, detailed planning applications for each 'bit' of the development is something you have to get and will get as and when required.

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[b:x70mwo3o]my girlfriend says i'm immature, and it's time we set aside one day a week so we can talk things through as adults. like THAT'S gonna happen in the middle of conker season!![/b:x70mwo3o]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_51886.jpg



Quote: Inflatable_Armadillo "at Glasshoughton over the last 5+ years.

When you have outlining planning to build a new stadium and lots of industrial units over a 10 year period, detailed planning applications for each 'bit' of the development is something you have to get and will get as and when required.'"



I think if you recap I have always wished Wakey well with their stadium (apart from falling into the odd tit for tat with a few of their less bright posters),

I only asked about the outline because some on the wakey board are saying that both can be applied for at the same time, I think they are wrong and have to go in seperately.

How can a council ignore the green belt issues, or is that part of the phased development that will be reclassified in 2 years and is not the stadium footprint ?

TBH I am ed off with the whole matter of trying to stay in this bent league and for clubs like mine and Wakey the championship offers more chance of siverware than staying as filler in superleague, I actually enjoyed the championship the last times we were in, it seems that there are more genuine Rugby League supporters there than in the s/l.

In fact i go to Hunslet whenever I can for the craic and the footys not too bad either.

My initial post asked , how long the existing traditional clubs can go on, having 3 or four games a season without the revenue from visiting fans , and used the fact that cas take 2000+ to headingly, at £20 a ticket = £40000 + beer and food sales that will be lost for 20 or thirty frenchmen if they are lucky, this applies also if Wakey get the bullet


The RFL are killing this game

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I asked before and I'll ask again (as I didn't get an answer the last time) are Toulouse exempted from the on field qualification criteria? Unless they make this season's Championship Grand Final, which appears unlikely, will they even be able to apply?'"


I understand the operational rules were amended in Jan of this year to also include 'any team the RFL board invites to apply', as well as the standard criteria.

Hence the Toulouse talk ...

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Thanks for that.

Earning the right to apply through on field performance is still for me quite important. I have little confidence in any club's ability to compete in SL who haven't first been competitive in the Championship and the thought of losing decent SL sides to accommodate such a team in the process I'd find galling.

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Quote: tvoc "Thanks for that.

Earning the right to apply through on field performance is still for me quite important. I have little confidence in any club's ability to compete in SL who haven't first been competitive in the Championship and the thought of losing decent SL sides to accommodate such a team in the process I'd find galling.'"

At least crusaders finished 2nd in the league the year they got the franchise. Something Widnes fans forgot too easily

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As I've said before, away fans mean bugger all, it's down to home teams to get attendances up.

Cas out, Widnes in.

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Quote: Wheels "As I've said before, away fans mean bugger all, it's down to home teams to get attendances up.

Cas out, Widnes in.'"


I'd go for that.

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Cas and Wakey out, Widnes and Toulouse in, we could do with another trip to France a season. icon_wink.gif

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[b:1swa1vwo]Change is inevitable ...except from a vending machine![/b:1swa1vwo] [quote="BillyRhino":1swa1vwo]So in best IA mode ..<.Possibley World Class, could be the greatest thing since sliced bread....am personally very excited, and confidently expect him to prove my predictions are bang on target.... Alternatively he could be rubbish> IA mode off. :wink:[/quote:1swa1vwo]:33791.jpg



Now I know I said Widnes, as have many others, but thinking about it over the last season and this years current positions in the league they look to me to be third/forth choice behind Halifax, Leigh and possibly Barrow who are all doing better than them this season ans two of them last season as well!

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Sorry but all the talk about grounds is a load of tosh. You've had years to get further than you have - see St Helens for example. I suspect the RFL has had enough of this rubbish and associated excuses as well.

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My boss is a cas fan and he was saying that the swimming complex they were hoping to have at Glasshoughton is going to be moved away to "another location" in the Wakefield district or something to that effect. There is a paper story somewhere around the place but i cant find or post the link. icon_biggrin.gifOH:

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Quote: Cala Millor Rhino "Cas and Wakey out, Widnes and Toulouse in, we could do with another trip to France a season.
That sounds even better icon_wink.gif

Actually Leigh have a rather nice ground too and might be better than Widnes....or let's have all 3 in and kick out Cas, Wakey and Saints d040.gif

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