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Quote: LFCRhino "No offence Damo lad but I hardly think the first thoughts of people when you walk into a pub would be " oh look hes a gangster/drug dealer lets shoot him" !!'"




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Quote: LFCRhino "You could probably name dozens more
I actually couldn't.

Mi Ma & Pa were in that night. I'm sure they could thouh

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Quote: Damo-Leeds "


Carlos the Jackal! Think I used to see him in Cosmos/Phoenix.

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Quote: Sam Buca "I actually couldn't.

Mi Ma & Pa were in that night. I'm sure they could thouh'"


My Sister and her boyfriend at the time were in the Manston when that incident occured!

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I was in close proximity of an attack in a City Centre Pub by the Lulu`s Gang or more specifically the father of one of the Lulu`s gangs for thos who go as far back as me icon_sad.gif

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First time we went in the barman jumped over the bar with a pool cue and chased a load of Asian kids out. He came back and said the strippers on upstairs lads,we wondered what we had let ourselves in for.Very dodgy upstairs with some girls who it was best not to make eye contact with.Never had any trouble though and always had a good laugh with the blue comic who was always on.Happy days

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WORKED IN TROTTERS , fortunately left b4 the attacks but used to travel past up york road the nites after when extra bodies were brought in.

allegedly started over an argument with landlord & told years later was a fatality in irwin arms

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Quote: doc-rhino "WORKED IN TROTTERS , fortunately left b4 the attacks but used to travel past up york road the nites after when extra bodies were brought in.

allegedly started over an argument with landlord & told years later was a fatality in irwin arms'"



Landlord of Trotters then was Andy Sykes ex- Leeds Prop.

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Quote: G1 "

Gaiety wasn't that bad, though it was a den of iniquity. You were usually safe in there despite the scum bags and dealers because it was usually full of off duty coppers and press!'"


I actually used to get dragged around a lot of unsavoury pubs in the early 80s by my copper mate who had recently volunteered for undercover work, the Hayfield in Chapeltown and the pub in the middle of the Uni/Poly campus (Faversham ?) were prime locations for spotting open drug dealing - I got to be quite an expert icon_lol.gif

And while I could easily pass for a scruffy unmade bed sort of student in my RAF greatcoat, my mate insisted on keeping his police short back and sides, John Holmes stylee moustache and a black leather jacket - all the things that pronounced "I am a copper" to the pubs inhabitants, he may as well have carried a siren and a flashing blue light - you can imagine that we had some uncomfortable evenings icon_lol.gif

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Quote: LFCRhino "No offence Damo lad but I hardly think the first thoughts of people when you walk into a pub would be " oh look hes a gangster/drug dealer lets shoot him" !!

I would have thought it would be more along the lines of " ID him"
No its usually "ooh look, its Alan Carr"

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Paul sykes the ex boxer was the glass collector in the gaiety just before it closed and the strippers were dogs! What was the name of the big white pub further up in Chapeltown that got closed after a shooting? was well dodgy, also the Market tavern was very lively in my youth icon_wink.gif icon_smile.gif

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Quote: mps "Landlord of Trotters then was Andy Sykes ex- Leeds Prop.'"


not when i was there..... unless he'd just taken over .

I remember him running warrens @ armley around that time just near the barcelona another quality establishment.

protection via a load of city centre doorman looked to be ongoing for a few days , was 20 years ago now

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The hayfield! ta for that. Got refused service in there before a yorkshire cup final at headingley. the barman said it wasn't the right sort of place for us wakey fans and he wasn't wrong! icon_lol.gif

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Quote: t drednowts is cumin! "also the Market tavern was very lively in my youth
icon_lol.gif The madhouse! Now that was a rough pub...

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