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Didnt we have the best defence in Superleague (Based on points conceeded) up until 2 or 3 games ago. The boys may have taken their eyes of the ball defence wise recently but I imagine it will be back up to scratch when we start our run in!

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We started conceding points against Hull on the back of a shed load of penalties - Leeds play with a very compressed defence so they will always be suspect to a high kick out wide Wakey scored the tries in the second half from kicks out wide

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Quote: RescuedBlue "To be fair, I wouldn't want to judge Atkins on one game

However what I hope tonight does show is that the Keith Senior doubters that probably still exist should see what he has just done to Atkins tonight and maybe appreciate KS a heck of a lot more

If Atkins really is the next best thing once Keith retires completely, then the game could be in real trouble, because Atkins is at the age now where he should have been troubling the "old man".'"


KS has returned to his best this season. Sometimes he allows himself to get drawn out in defence and can leave a few holes but the quality od his ball carrying and support has been wonderful for the most part.

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The only game this season where I've thought our defence was poor was last week against Hull. On Friday our defence was fine, it was what we were doing with the ball and our discipline that was the problem.

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Quote: UnleashKeith Carnegie "Don't need to put in an 80 minute display yet.

Aslong as we're ticking along still picking up the points without playing particularly well, I'm happy.

You should be too.'"


correctumundo

Business end of the season is approaching in the very far distance but we are motoring along nicely

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Both sides' defence were poor. Leeds will need to lift their intensity in that regard come the business end of the season.

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It’s not our defence that we need to work on at all – quite the opposite. Considering the amount of penalties we conceded our defence held up pretty well.

If we could manage to improve our discipline then we wouldn’t need to defend half as much as we do. But maybe that’s why we have such a good defence is due to the fact that we spend most of the frekkin’ game defending after conceding so many frekkin’ penalties.

Still find it hard to believe that Ablett managed to get pinged TWICE for being a gooby cock.

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Quote: LS16_Rhino "It’s not our defence that we need to work on at all – quite the opposite. Considering the amount of penalties we conceded our defence held up pretty well.

If we could manage to improve our discipline then we wouldn’t need to defend half as much as we do. But maybe that’s why we have such a good defence is due to the fact that we spend most of the frekkin’ game defending after conceding so many frekkin’ penalties.

Still find it hard to believe that Ablett managed to get pinged TWICE for being a gooby cock.'"

I guess he won't be on the invite list to yer summer BAR-B-Q'S then mate icon_wink.gif

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Quote: rhinoms "You do know we have a better defensive record under bluey don't you??????
What do you think your chances are of getting an answer to that one?

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Quote: Tony Soprano "What do you think your chances are of getting an answer to that one?'"

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I think i'm getting a damn good ignoring mate!!

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Quote: LS16_Rhino "It’s not our defence that we need to work on at all – quite the opposite. Considering the amount of penalties we conceded our defence held up pretty well.

If we could manage to improve our discipline then we wouldn’t need to defend half as much as we do. But maybe that’s why we have such a good defence is due to the fact that we spend most of the frekkin’ game defending after conceding so many frekkin’ penalties.

Still find it hard to believe that Ablett managed to get pinged TWICE for being a gooby cock.'"


Even if Ablett had have ripped Ganson's head off and took a dump in his neck, I would have excused that behavour, for the penalty given against him for the "alledged" trip on Drew. That one was clear as day, with Ganson have the clearest view that Drew dived.

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Quote: rhinoms "I guess he won't be on the invite list to yer summer BAR-B-Q'S then mate
Not at all mate – he can pop round whenever he likes… then I can tape his friggin’ gob shut icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Gotcha "Even if Ablett had have ripped Ganson's head off and took a dump in his neck, I would have excused that behavour, for the penalty given against him for the "alledged" trip on Drew. That one was clear as day, with Ganson have the clearest view that Drew dived.'"

I don't think you can excuse ablett mate,we all know what to expect from this ref especially the players and whilst i agree it must be really frustrating there's no defence for his reactions.
Although ganson didn't react when grix had a go at him when adjudged to have knocked on!!! icon_evil.gif

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Quote: rhinoms "I don't think you can excuse ablett mate,we all know what to expect from this ref especially the players and whilst i agree it must be really frustrating there's no defence for his reactions.
Although ganson didn't react when grix had a go at him when adjudged to have knocked on!!!
You might not mate, but I do.

I am not excusing dissent on a whole. I think the problem that Leeds are having is that so much of the side have developed together without playing for another club. During that time the number of harsh and inconsistent decisions we are now seeing have not been there, so the players have are not used to dealing with this. The frustration they are now experiencing, and lets be honest we all would, they are not used to dealing with.

This makes it harder not only for the players, but also the coaches to get a grip on it. Especially when the coaches aswell are feelign the frustration of the inconsistencies.

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Quote: Gotcha "You might not mate, but I do.

I am not excusing dissent on a whole. I think the problem that Leeds are having is that so much of the side have developed together without playing for another club. During that time the number of harsh and inconsistent decisions we are now seeing have not been there, so the players have are not used to dealing with this. The frustration they are now experiencing, and lets be honest we all would, they are not used to dealing with.

This makes it harder not only for the players, but also the coaches to get a grip on it. Especially when the coaches aswell are feelign the frustration of the inconsistencies.'"

I see yer point and it's clearly as confusing as it is annoying but in our sport we don't want to see reactions like that no matter how hard it is to "bite yer lip".
In the past the team has managed to rise above it and their rugby do the talking which i wish they would do now plus as a whole our discipline is poor anyway and we should concentrate on rectifying that rather than chelping at the ref.

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