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Quote: kjrhino "In response to Martin to the NRl.. i personally don;t see what he offers the team.. barely runs it in, if he does usually backs in to the tackle.. if it wasn't for his (usually) good kicking then he isn;t much better, if at all, than mcdonnell who i think should be in ahead of bentley et al every week.

We do have some puddings in the team, Sangare is one of them.. for his size he doesn;t do much for me. Bentley has endevour but there must be better out there for the money.

Agree on Fusitua... great when fit... fit being the operative word.. gone miss at least 1/3 of the season again..

Think we are missing some real biff up front.. we need a Barrie Mcdermott style prop..

Will ake a judgement on MoM and Frawley after 8/10 games... but to be honest i think they are gonna be duff signings.

Frawley was pants at Hudds and not much better in the NRL.

Saints and Wigan have much better squads.

A finish of 4/5 is probably our best expectations with our squad... we just need players to actually run onto the ball and not take it stationary.'"

A Barrie Mac style prop would be lucky to play five games a season in the current climate. He was a bit of liability back then but nowadays he'd be a disaster.

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Quote: kjrhino "In response to Martin to the NRl.. i personally don;t see what he offers the team.. barely runs it in, if he does usually backs in to the tackle.. if it wasn't for his (usually) good kicking then he isn;t much better, if at all, than mcdonnell who i think should be in ahead of bentley et al every week.

We do have some puddings in the team, Sangare is one of them.. for his size he doesn;t do much for me. Bentley has endevour but there must be better out there for the money.

Agree on Fusitua... great when fit... fit being the operative word.. gone miss at least 1/3 of the season again..

Think we are missing some real biff up front.. we need a Barrie Mcdermott style prop..

Will ake a judgement on MoM and Frawley after 8/10 games... but to be honest i think they are gonna be duff signings.

Frawley was pants at Hudds and not much better in the NRL.

Saints and Wigan have much better squads.

A finish of 4/5 is probably our best expectations with our squad... we just need players to actually run onto the ball and not take it stationary.'"


From what Ive seen so far Frawley will do alright, Miller however Im not so sure about.

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Barrie was great to watch but he would be banned every game.

We need someone like James Graham, Kylie etc. Hit the line hard and keep the tackles legal but hard

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Quote: FGB "From what Ive seen so far Frawley will do alright, Miller however Im not so sure about.'"


So far Miller has looked like what he is - a sevens player.
He's always looking to be involved, but he's always looking to keep the ball alive with basketball passes.
He could do some damage if he gets a break into open space, but he needs to cut out the mistakes and calm down a bit.

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Quote: Emagdnim13 "Barrie was great to watch but he would be banned every game.

We need someone like James Graham, Kylie etc. Hit the line hard and keep the tackles legal but hard'"


A peak Kylie Leuluai would revolutionise our pack, even the version that played in Rob and JJB’s testimonial would improve it.

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Miller has looked naive in English conditions at times, but I don’t know how many games it takes to realise when to wind it in a bit.

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Quote: KaeruJim "Miller has looked naive in English conditions at times, but I don’t know how many games it takes to realise when to wind it in a bit.'"


Maybe Bentley's been advising him?

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We have some repeat offenders right now that will lose us tight games against the better sides. I do like Miller going forward though. If he can steady his play a bit in our 20 he’ll be a weapon.

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On the first try it would have been far more advantageous to have been given the penalty try, imagine losing by a point. Handley clearly would have scored without being fouled as he managed it with being fouled. Kick infront of the sticks could have been vital. As he didn't have possession I presume he couldn't be in the act of scoring, so couldn't have the additional penalty like the Newman score.

I guess you always have to check for the try first but what happened benefited the team committing the foul.

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It seems like if a try is scored, all is forgiven. If a penalty try couldn’t be guaranteed, then it should have been a yellow card.

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Just thinking how much sharper we look now with Croft at 6 and the distribution from Ackers. Croft is better than I expected in some ways.

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Quote: kjrhino "In response to Martin to the NRl.. i personally don;t see what he offers the team.. barely runs it in, if he does usually backs in to the tackle.. if it wasn't for his (usually) good kicking then he isn;t much better, if at all, than mcdonnell who i think should be in ahead of bentley et al every week.

We do have some puddings in the team, Sangare is one of them.. for his size he doesn;t do much for me. Bentley has endevour but there must be better out there for the money.

Agree on Fusitua... great when fit... fit being the operative word.. gone miss at least 1/3 of the season again..

Think we are missing some real biff up front.. we need a Barrie Mcdermott style prop..

Will ake a judgement on MoM and Frawley after 8/10 games... but to be honest i think they are gonna be duff signings.

Frawley was pants at Hudds and not much better in the NRL.

Saints and Wigan have much better squads.

A finish of 4/5 is probably our best expectations with our squad... we just need players to actually run onto the ball and not take it stationary.'"


What we really need is a few more top fans like KJR Rhino, with support from the likes of him we would (I am sure), win everything every year, Maybe even Gary makes him head coach, if his/her predictive ability is as good (pre) judgement maybe he could see a special recruit.
FWIW, 4th/5th is rather what I am expecting as it shows progression from 23, Good entertaining rugby such as we had on Saturday would be progress. The difference being if this happens I will consider my season ticket money well spent.

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Quote: Broadacres "On the first try it would have been far more advantageous to have been given the penalty try, imagine losing by a point. Handley clearly would have scored without being fouled as he managed it with being fouled. Kick infront of the sticks could have been vital. As he didn't have possession I presume he couldn't be in the act of scoring, so couldn't have the additional penalty like the Newman score.

I guess you always have to check for the try first but what happened benefited the team committing the foul.'"


A penalty try isn’t an 8 point try, you have to take the kick where its ‘scored’ and don’t get another go

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Quote: christopher "A penalty try isn’t an 8 point try, you have to take the kick where its ‘scored’ and don’t get another go'"


A penalty try is awarded between the sticks. A penalty try can't be awarded though if the try is actually scored. So in that sense a penalty try more or less guarantees you 6 pts, which, everything being equal, so does an "8 pt try".

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Quote: YosemiteSam "A penalty try is awarded between the sticks. A penalty try can't be awarded though if the try is actually scored. So in that sense a penalty try more or less guarantees you 6 pts, which, everything being equal, so does an "8 pt try".'"


Sorry you’re correct im getting mixed up (easily done) icon_smile.gif

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