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Quote: christopher "The problem with that is people like Gotcha keep telling us that the competition is getting weaker and weaker each year, maybe thats why Cas have been able to rise u the table? I'm not saying thats the case by the way.'"


I am actually saying that is the case. But I am not saying that is a detriment to Powell. At the end of the day Cas have still gone forward as a club, but more importantly it is what you are doing with the resources available.

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Quote: Gotcha "I am actually saying that is the case. But I am not saying that is a detriment to Powell. At the end of the day Cas have still gone forward as a club, but more importantly it is what you are doing with the resources available.'"


To be fair Gotcha, I actually agree with you regarding Cas, Powell has done a magnificent job, Anderson seemed to be doing similar at the Giants but seemed to go backwards quickly.

Cas need to get a stadium sorted soon IMO, they have all the ingredients to be a well run modern Rugby League club, they have the support base, the history and are playing good rugby. Their fans got a bit giddy and arrogant last year but who can blame them!

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Quote: christopher " Their fans got a bit....arrogant last year but who can blame them!'"


Fake news. Not on here they didn't.

I was talking to someone on Friday night who is involved with the Cas 'project'. He reckons it is back on again. I'm not holding my breath.

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Quote: Biff Tannen "Indeed.

Peacock at Bradford was a marauding back rower, Peacock at Leeds was a dominating front rower. 2 different players really but i think both clubs got pretty much equal value out of him when you look at it.'"


Peacock was an established international back row forward at Bradford - not sure how he gets any better when he joins Leeds.

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Quote: Sal Paradise "Peacock was an established international back row forward at Bradford - not sure how he gets any better when he joins Leeds.'"



You said he had peaked (which means he got worse at leeds) and you said he should be pensioned of in 2011, just admit you were wrong.

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Quote: Sal Paradise "Peacock was an established international back row forward at Bradford - not sure how he gets any better when he joins Leeds.'"


He changed his role and became an established international front row. He wasn't any less of a player, or as you put it past his best.

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he was just as good and influential albeit in a different role. past his best David? no chance sorry pal

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Quote: tigertot "Rubbish. They (Cas) have lost 2 finals to teams with far bigger budgets. They have won semi finals & play off games, or don't they count. The way he has repeatedly taken past-it players & unheard of players & moulded them into a regular top side makes him easily the best British coach of his generation. I don't think there is a single Cas fan who would swap him.'"

Agree 100%, turning cas around from where they were when he got there, to where they are now, absolutely fantastic job.

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Right now given that we've zero chance of winning the competition, which side would you rather watch - Cas who have weaknesses but also at times have easily the best ball movement in SL, or Leeds, who have weaknesses and are just dullsville?

I agree with Gotcha on two things about this year. Firstly, the game is not all about trophies, and secondly, which I find harder that people don't seem to want to credit, entertainment is important. For most sports fans its about the entertainment value and watching their team compete. If we're winning trophies you can justify dull play, but if dull play is also losing play, what then?

As an aside given our injuries in the props playing one-man rugby is probably about the most stupid way to play I can think of.

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Quote: BrisbaneRhino "Right now given that we've zero chance of winning the competition, which side would you rather watch - Cas who have weaknesses but also at times have easily the best ball movement in SL, or Leeds, who have weaknesses and are just dullsville?

I agree with Gotcha on two things about this year. Firstly, the game is not all about trophies, and secondly, which I find harder that people don't seem to want to credit, entertainment is important. For most sports fans its about the entertainment value and watching their team compete. If we're winning trophies you can justify dull play, but if dull play is also losing play, what then?

As an aside given our injuries in the props playing one-man rugby is probably about the most stupid way to play I can think of.'"


Id rather watch Leeds, I'm a Leeds supporter. I was rather glad I supported Leeds in October last year and not Castleford, there was a lot of satisfaction as a supporter to watch a team that was in the sh@t the year before to quietly go about their business and turn up when it mattered, Castleford may have learned a massive lesson last year who knows.

You are talking as if they are purposely going out to be dull, we are going through a tough patch with Injuries high and confidence low this happens and in a physical sport like RL losing the big men upfront for a lot of the season will take its toll. I am still entertained, as a sports fan going through the tough times is part of the deal. We do need to recruit for next year, theres no doubt our pack needs some revisions and yes maybe it is time for a change of coach, but I don't want that to be a rash decision and one that is handled well and the transition a planned one.

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I think it’s a bit much to expect attractive rugby when half the team is injured. The players that have come in will be more limited in ability so performances won’t be as good as if everyone was fit. It’s that simple.

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Quote: Bullseye "I think it’s a bit much to expect attractive rugby when half the team is injured. The players that have come in will be more limited in ability so performances won’t be as good as if everyone was fit. It’s that simple.'"


This point really isn't sinking in at all. The dull tactics is not new over the last few weeks, far from it. This is the rugby we have been playing for a long time. Wining trophy's hides it, but over seasons it is boredom to the fore. Far from the injuries making it worse, at least to see new players adds some interest to it. Those players that have come in have bene performing better than the so called stars who keep missing.

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apart from 2015 it's been dull rugby for years.turgid stuff

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Quote: Gotcha "This point really isn't sinking in at all. The dull tactics is not new over the last few weeks, far from it. This is the rugby we have been playing for a long time. Wining trophy's hides it, but over seasons it is boredom to the fore. Far from the injuries making it worse, at least to see new players adds some interest to it. Those players that have come in have bene performing better than the so called stars who keep missing.'"


It's not all been dull Gotcha, we have played some great entertaining rugby (discounting 2016 although the latter part of the season we beat some decent teams!) there have been some great wins over McDermotts term, maybe not consistently enough to satisfy you but to say its all been dull is disingenuous

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For me it's as much about the rudderless one up no idea dross we continually serve up as it is anything else.
Injuries are a factor i agree but recruitment/retention & adaptability are also huge factors.
We know how we're going to try to play every week we also know the 17 will include players carrying injuries.
It's the same irrespective of who plays.
It's predictable stale & goes on too often imo.

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