Juan, you are talking absolute rubbish mate. You simply can not see some of the things that go on, on the tv, close up replays I give you, but not the full vision like you can at a game. Your biase on JJB knows no bounds, here it is completely clueless. No one is arguing with you on errors, in fact nobody is saying he wasn't rushing out, that was part of the problem he was playing his own game and leaving problems for others. He is not fit, that is clear, his arms are knackered, he can not get them round and he is flapping, do you not notice he never makes a tackle round the legs? They ran round him numerous times in that first half, and he was shoved off three times, that was why I commented at half time. That is fact, not your view that can not see it from thousands of miles away. Let me make it clear, nobody is questioning JJB's attitude and desire.

I agree with you on Sutcliffe and Briscoe who were woeful, although not necessarily the Eden try. I also think Sutcliffe was at fault with the third try where it was clear what Millington was doing, he was pointing for it, and Sutcliffe was looking right at it but didn't read it. But that is what happens when players play roles they are not up to.

This gets a bit boring to be honest. You would be 100% correct in an isolated match. But come on, how many times have we repeated this now in games? 39 missed tackles is nothing new for us this year, and neither is low percentages. If the coach can't fix that, then where does the blame really lie?

McDermott looked a broken man at the after match interviews. Looked like someone who Simply does not have the answers and the fact layers are not responding to him. I hope he realises that either he is not up to it anymore and should stand aside. Or stop being so loyal to his favourites who are clearly letting him down. If he and GH intend for him to stay in for next year they need to tell the players they are either done after this year or playing for a contract next year. Tony smith has done this at Warrington and they are well on with recruiting for next year were as we are standing still

If Hardaker, Gale and McShane were playing for Leeds, under the coaching of Powell, there may have been a different result.
Leeds' loss has been Castleford's gain.

There is no place on this board for such well thought out comments like this , stop it immediately

Your key was the coaching. Not sure putting them in this current set up would make much difference, and McShane simply isn't anything close to Parcell anyway.

Gale would improve us but generally coaching is the differencr

McShane has outplayed his opposite number parcell everytime easily this season they've met. Granted I appreciate that stems from the pack.

Would expect a ban for JJB.

No he hasn't, not at all.

He has. Every time Cas have played Leeds this year McShane has been the standout hooker. I like Parcell, good player, speed to burn, decent support player, works hard. But Macca is also having a damn good season and I wouldn't swap him for anyone. Such a good rugby brain, tough as old boots. He thoroughly deserves his England call up .

Yes he has

McShane has been the better hooker but its not surprising considering his team have been on the front foot in about 75 percent of the overall game time over the 3 games.

He has improved lots since he was with us, i don't think he is quite international standard though.

By some distance too.

As for McGuire, did he create any more when on the pitch than he did while in the bin?

I he hasn't at all. We had this after magic weekend, and the stats came out and it wasn't even close, Parcell was by miles the better player. I really can't recall much of the first game, but don't think McShane did anything better than Parcell last night either. Parcell is easily the stand out hooker in Super League this year.