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| My point about Mullally and Ormondroyd (Baldwinson too)is that not playing them puts a big strain on the pack, especially late in the game.
With Galloway out for a little while and injuries or burn out a possibility he has to trust the bench players to do more than 0-5 minutes.
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| Quote: Gotcha "Sceptical of Ormandroyd signing, but to be fair thought he looked quite good when on, and should have had longer.'"
Didn't think Ormandroyd or Walters did too much wrong, certainly both offered more than Mullaly.
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| My biggest issue with BMD is we've looked this poor with the ball for over 12 months so it becomes more than just a player issue over that time. We actually look like we don't know how we will play an attacking set from anywhere on the field. Head down up all the time is not pretty to watch.
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| Quote: craigizzard "Incredibly poor second half, no attacking teamwork whatsoever except the relationship between Parcell and Cuthbertson, which looks promising, but then you need halves/fullback to back them up.
Ablett MoM. Cuthbertson and Singleton really good but they had to be, and were shattered in the last quarter. No surprise as McD obviously doesn't trust our other middle forwards, and that's a massive failure of either coaching or recruitment.
Saved by defensive plays by Keinhorst and Briscoe, who were two of our better players, Briscoe in particular.
Negatives...game management...all the intelligence seems to have left the club with Sinfield. None of the three halves were any good, but it's weird that the worst of them, the one who looks like a carthorse loose-forward, was the only one to get 80. Yes, it was a great 40-20 (and drop goal) but that doesn't make up for the rest of the performance. And he will never, ever, ever be a goalkicker.
The other problem with the halves is lack of support from fullback. I know we had that to an extent with Hardaker, but at least he backed up or joined the line. Golding's defence, ball security and positioning was again very good but at a time when fullbacks are being used as extra halves, he got involved in attacking plays presicesly zero times. Whether that's down to him or to the really strange McDermott structure, I don't know.
Also JJB looks finished.'"
Thought Briscoe aspired to average to be honest. As time has gone on, i think it has become more and more imperative that we utilise the better value we would get from handley.
I thought Hall ( bar his pass to Burrow) Ablett and Sutcliffe played really well, Golding is really earning his shirt and proving many wrong, But JJB was my man of the match. If we had a team full of players who ran as hard and tackled as much as he has these first too games, i could line up at halfback and we would win.
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| Quote: ThePrinter "He was up there with Parcell and Cuthbertson. Keinhorst and Hall did well also. Thought the right hand three of Ward, Watkins and Briscoe were really poor.'"
Agree about Ward and Watkins (how did Ward get MoM, I thought Stevo had retired?) but Briscoe particularly in the second half came looking for work, made more drives and yards than most of the forwards, and got us on the front foot with quick ptbs and penalties. In a game where he was given absolutely no wingers' opportunities I thought he did really well. As well as pulling off a match-saving tackle after the whole of the rest of the right edge had been taken in my their centre's inside ball.
I see a couple are calling him out, and I wouldn't say he's always a favourite of mine, but on the night I disagree.
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| Sutty was also a strange one, obviously the 40/20 and drop goal, as well as some other good touches and carries and generally good defence, BUT if your grading him as a half probably a C or average.
Good player, wrong position imo.
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| Quote: Barrie's Glass Eye "Didn't think Ormandroyd or Walters did too much wrong, certainly both offered more than Mullaly.'"
Thought Walters tried really hard, but not sure there is a worse player in Super League. He is almost comical, the way he spends most of his time sliding on his backside, or diving at thin air.
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| Quote: craigizzard "Agree about Ward and Watkins (how did Ward get MoM, I thought Stevo had retired?) but Briscoe particularly in the second half came looking for work, made more drives and yards than most of the forwards, and got us on the front foot with quick ptbs and penalties. In a game where he was given absolutely no wingers' opportunities I thought he did really well. As well as pulling off a match-saving tackle after the whole of the rest of the right edge had been taken in my their centre's inside ball.
I see a couple are calling him out, and I wouldn't say he's always a favourite of mine, but on the night I disagree.'"
Plenty of appetite for work, couple of tackle busts, nearly always isn't grounded or finds his front, resulting in a quick ptb.
Like you say, with little othe 'winger' opportunity what else could we have asked of him tonight?
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| JJB looks far from finished. I thought baring a couple of dumb penalties, his performance was heroic.
I thought Ward was good in the first half, but was nowhere near MOM. Again, I think the criticism of Sutcliffe is harsh, but I'm now convinced he should be a loose forward
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| Quote: Gotcha "Thought Walters tried really hard, but not sure there is a worse player in Super League. He is almost comical, the way he spends most of his time sliding on his backside, or diving at thin air.'"
he does somehow make a simple tackle look spectacular.
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| Quote: craigizzard "Agree about Ward and Watkins (how did Ward get MoM, I thought Stevo had retired?) but Briscoe particularly in the second half came looking for work, made more drives and yards than most of the forwards, and got us on the front foot with quick ptbs and penalties. In a game where he was given absolutely no wingers' opportunities I thought he did really well. As well as pulling off a match-saving tackle after the whole of the rest of the right edge had been taken in my their centre's inside ball.
I see a couple are calling him out, and I wouldn't say he's always a favourite of mine, but on the night I disagree.'"
He made yards, a lot of them sideways though, he was one of the first to knock on in that 2nd half and his wasn't even forced. Nothing attempt for their first try. He got the sin binning that was more to do with a Leugh players stupidity and it was a bit cringeworthy his footballers dive.
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| Quote: ThePrinter "He made yards, a lot of them sideways though, he was one of the first to knock on in that 2nd half and his wasn't even forced. Nothing attempt for their first try. He got the sin binning that was more to do with a Leugh players stupidity and it was a bit cringeworthy his footballers dive.'"
Briscoe did dive, and it was a little embarrassing but only as embarrassing as the ref needing two chances to give that decision, though his was the worst performance on the field.
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| Quote: Gotcha "Thought Walters tried really hard, but not sure there is a worse player in Super League. He is almost comical, the way he spends most of his time sliding on his backside, or diving at thin air.'"
He didn't do that tonight though, and was safe with the ball. Like you say, can't fault his effort, and maybe I give him too much credit for that. (I blame Achurch for that).
In terms of worse players in SL, I raise you Mullaly based on tonight's performance, and Scott Grix has always been a favourite of mine when it comes to this conversation.
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| It's alright him criticising the attack but what's he coaching? He's the coach and should be setting the structure, we have none. We're such a boring team to watch.
We need someone on the coaching staff who played in the backs at a good level
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| Id also add, Leigh against a side which only played for 25min and a few welcome decisions from the ref couldnt win, with Saints, Wigan, Hudds, Wire, next up might very easily find themselves with a lot of pressure on them to get 3 or 4 wins from their Wakefield, Widnes, Les Catalans (home), Salford run or they might find themselves out of the running.
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