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| Quote: FlexWheeler "I agree but the video ref can't disreguard the black and white rules and use common sense instead. The rules need to be altered to allow a more common sense approach.
Stuart cummings summed it up best in commentary and showed what a straight forwards decision it was.
Was the leeds in the defensive line? yes
did the ball handling player run behind him? yes
No try. Simple.'"
Can you find the rule that makes it illegal for a player to be in the defensive line, or the rule that states it's illegal to run behind a teammate? I can't. I can find rules that say an obstruction should be penalised, but none that cover running behind a teammate or an attacking player being in the defensive line. |
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players run behind teammates in every single game. the vast majority are not a penalty as there is no interference. this happened on sunday. common sense says its a try. not one wigan player complained at the time.
i have seen these decisions go for and against us. its a lottery
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| Quote: Richie "Can you find the rule that makes it illegal for a player to be in the defensive line, or the rule that states it's illegal to run behind a teammate? I can't. I can find rules that say an obstruction should be penalised, but none that cover running behind a teammate or an attacking player being in the defensive line.'"
I'm only going off stuart cummings criteria which he commentated on. There was a 3rd criteria but i can't remember what it was and he said in his opinion it was no try. |
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| Quote: FlexWheeler "I'm only going off stuart cummings criteria which he commentated on. There was a 3rd criteria but i can't remember what it was and he said in his opinion it was no try.'"
So, did Stuart Cummings disregard the rules? |
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The result was the correct one, Wigan deserved the win.
The only point I would make about the obstruction in relation to the McGuire No Try, is specifically, who was Obstructed? No one was impeded from making a tackle, and no one left a gap as McGuire passed to McShane, he didn't dummy and go through the gap that would have been created by the missing (obstructed) defender. This I think is the point McDermott is making.
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| Quote: batleyrhino "
The only point I would make about the obstruction in relation to the McGuire No Try, is specifically, who was Obstructed? No one was impeded from making a tackle, and no one left a gap as McGuire passed to McShane, he didn't dummy and go through the gap that would have been created by the missing (obstructed) defender. This I think is the point McDermott is making.'"
you echo my thoughts batley |
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| Quote: batleyrhino "The result was the correct one, Wigan deserved the win.
The only point I would make about the obstruction in relation to the McGuire No Try, is specifically, who was Obstructed? No one was impeded from making a tackle, and no one left a gap as McGuire passed to McShane, he didn't dummy and go through the gap that would have been created by the missing (obstructed) defender. This I think is the point McDermott is making.'"
In my opinion Matty Smith was 'obstructed'. Not obstructed literally but see him hesitate when McGuire goes to pass but runs instead. If McGuire passes when he should then Matty Smith has every chance of making the tackle on McShane.
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Squad:
1. Zak Hardaker
3. Kallum Watkins
4. Joel Moon
5. Ryan Hall
6. Danny McGuire
7. Rob Burrow
8. Kylie Leuluai
9. Paul McShane
11. Jamie Jones-Buchanan
13. Kevin Sinfield (c)
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Is this the same 19 as last week and the week before?
I would leave out Delaney giving him another weeks rest and Bailey giving Moore a run out.
But it wont happen.
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I'd leave out Delaney and Moore. Keep Singleton and Sutcliffe whilst their confidence is up
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If a player is in the defensive line, and is not interfering with play..... What the hell is he doing!!!???!!!
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Just realised I posted the 19 man squad in the wrong thread *facepalm*
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| Quote: Wigan Peer "If a player is in the defensive line, and is not interfering with play..... What the hell is he doing!!!???!!!'"
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| Quote: Wheels "In my opinion Matty Smith was 'obstructed'. Not obstructed literally but see him hesitate when McGuire goes to pass but runs instead. If McGuire passes when he should then Matty Smith has every chance of making the tackle on McShane.
All IMHO of course. ![]()
I see what you are saying Wheels, but isn't that just a poor defensive read by Smith? Players do that all the time.
McShane got the ball away to Moon pretty sharpish as well so even if Smith had got there it's unlikely he'd have prevented the pass that led to the break.
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| Quote: Wheels "In my opinion Matty Smith was 'obstructed'. Not obstructed literally but see him hesitate when McGuire goes to pass but runs instead. If McGuire passes when he should then Matty Smith has every chance of making the tackle on McShane.
All IMHO of course. ![]()
Is that not Matty Smith falling for a dummy rather than him being blocked by the attacking player in the defensive line?
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