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Quote: christopher "I agree with this, what did JJB say?'"


Nothing terrible, just the players are not
Playing to potential compared to other sides, which is true but for mine you are either in the tent p1ssing out or outside p1ssing in. Not right him and JP want to do both

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We badly miss Hardaker given we played our new number 4 on the wing.
In fact we are
Missing Sutty and even Briscoe a bit as well

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Quote: Sir Gregory ParsloeP "We badly miss Hardaker given we played our new number 4 on the wing.
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Missing Sutty and even Briscoe a bit as well'"


Macdonald played centre yesterday didn’t he? Anyway I actually think he is s better winger than centre .

Sutcliffe and Briscoe are two players most people on here wanted rid of.

We do miss Hardaker though i will give you that.

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Hardaker > Olpherts

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I liked sutty, always did but he had to go. leeds messed him terribly. proving what a decent player he always was

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Quote: krisleeds "Olpherts is STILL better than Tindall.

What does that say about current depth in the backs....?'"

We do have some other potential wingers coming through no dramas - Tindall is quick and evasive but can’t seem to do anything else a rugby league player needs to do well… shame because he showed glimmers of promise over the Xmas friendlies.

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Quote: christopher "Macdonald played centre yesterday didn’t he? Anyway I actually think he is s better winger than centre .

Sutcliffe and Briscoe are two players most people on here wanted rid of.

We do miss Hardaker though i will give you that.'"

Agree but if Hardaker wanted too much… also he is always a liability off the field.

As long as we’re not relegated this year and some of our core players develop I’m personally not that bothered.

We have a rare opportunity to really sweep the broom through and that’s what we need to do. If we carry on retaining mid-table players and overpaid marquees (which every single one of them has been) then we will keep on getting the same results.

We are a good side in the making still IMO but the magic sauce is missing.

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Quote: batleyrhino "Hardaker > Olpherts'"


Olpherts wasn’t Hardakers replacement though.

Id be happy never seeing olpherts again mind.

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Quote: KaeruJim "Agree but if Hardaker wanted too much… also he is always a liability off the field.

As long as we’re not relegated this year and some of our core players develop I’m personally not that bothered.

We have a rare opportunity to really sweep the broom through and that’s what we need to do. If we carry on retaining mid-table players and overpaid marquees (which every single one of them has been) then we will keep on getting the same results.

We are a good side in the making still IMO but the magic sauce is missing.'"


Im fine with going nothing this year as long as our recruitment is good for next

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He is the reason that we didn’t have the money to pay Hardaker what he wanted. We’d signed Olpherts long before Hardaker left, don’t be fooled by the announcement dates. I live near to Cas here days, it was widely known over here months before it was announced.

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Quote: batleyrhino "He is the reason that we didn’t have the money to pay Hardaker what he wanted. We’d signed Olpherts long before Hardaker left, don’t be fooled by the announcement dates. I live near to Cas here days, it was widely known over here months before it was announced.'"


It wasn’t just money for Hardaker it was the length of the deal that also meant he moved to Leigh.

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Yep you’re right it was. I think it was 2 years, the same as we gave Olpherts.

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Quote: batleyrhino "Yep you’re right it was. I think it was 2 years, the same as we gave Olpherts.'"


We offered Hardaker one year, which to be fair with his record in leaving clubs in disgrace is probably fair.

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If we can't beat that Wakefield side Smith needs to go

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We really need to move on from the Hardaker thing.
He's well over 30 and way past his best.
We need to be looking forward and thinking differently regards recruitment.

And this could come back to bite me, but we need to give up if we can't beat that Wakefield side....

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