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Quote: Him "What's the point of positive discrimination if no-one knows about it?'"


Why do people mistakenly think that people's action/thinking towards a miniority group (in terms of positive discrimination) can only happen if they get on a megaphone and buy a load of banners saying "WE HIRED A GAY MAN"

Quote: Him "If anyone can supply any sort of evidence whatsoever then I'll consider it. Until then I'll assume the claim to be utter batsh|ttery that was probably made in the heat of the moment but now can't be backed away from.'"


Not all, it was posted over 24 hours after Friday's game. I made no comment on Child's performance, enough people did that. He wasn't the reason we lost and we would've lost we any referee I reckon. However the opening few pages were full of people absolutely stumped with the question "How does James Child get given these games" (and it a repeated question after games he's reffed).

NO ONE at all could come up with any answer. Not a soul said because he's one of the best we have. Yet after I offered my suggestion suddenly a few very people uncomfortable and upset at the thought suddenly thought he was one of our best referees. Strange that.

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Quote: ThePrinter "Ahh good old Smokey, can't think of an intelligent reply to the point made so reverts back to shouting homophobe and bigot in the hope people won't realise he couldn't think of a counter argument.'"
Everyone is well aware of what the counter argument to your bigoted and homophobic statement is.

Quote: ThePrinter "But that's not what you said, you claimed that by attacking James Child we are attacking ALL gay people in ANY job. To claim that questioning one gay persons employment is to question every gay persons employment is stupid.
'"

dont be a liar as well as a coward and a bigot. What i said, again, Verbatim
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It isnt fair on James Child, and it isnt fair on any gay person who may wish to referee.

You are basically arguing that it is fine to speculate that any gay person, in any role, is possibly only there based on their sexuality. That we should assume that they may only be there because of their sexuality.
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Quote: ThePrinter "Yes I know "jobs for the boys" is something completely different because not every person will be positively discriminated for the same reason. One case might be because of someone's sexuality, one might be "jobs for the boys", one might be skin colour, one might be gender. To say I need to include sexuality in every case of discrimination whether negative or positive is showing your complete lack of understanding on the matter.'"
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That Tim Roby?

Yeah Child getingt those games over him because he is gay is definitely the conclusion of a rational non homophobic person.
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That Tim Roby?

Yeah Child getingt those games over him because he is gay is definitely the conclusion of a rational non homophobic person.


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Quote: ThePrinter "Why do people mistakenly think that people's action/thinking towards a miniority group (in terms of positive discrimination) can only happen if they get on a megaphone and buy a load of banners saying "WE HIRED A GAY MAN"

Not all, it was posted over 24 hours after Friday's game. I made no comment on Child's performance, enough people did that. He wasn't the reason we lost and we would've lost we any referee I reckon. However the opening few pages were full of people absolutely stumped with the question "How does James Child get given these games" (and it a repeated question after games he's reffed).

NO ONE at all could come up with any answer. Not a soul said because he's one of the best we have. Yet after I offered my suggestion suddenly a few very people uncomfortable and upset at the thought suddenly thought he was one of our best referees. Strange that.'"


Plenty of people on here have explained why James Child gets these games - he is one of the best referees we have and the top teams cannot have Thaler/Silverwood/Bentham every week. Pretty simple explanation to most rational humans - why you don't seem to understand that I don't know - I probably do!!

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Quote: Gotcha "The only judgement has been made on his performances whilst a full time referee.'"


No, the judgement that was made is that he only continues to get "big" games because of his sexuality.

If you didn't pick that up, maybe it's your comprehension that needs work.

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Quote: ThePrinter "Those on the other side of the argument are saying his employers wouldn't do that just because they themselves personally wouldn't do that.'"


And in the complete absence of any evidence to suggest that his employers have done that. I'll make my judgments on what I see and know thanks, rather than lavish speculation about an organisation's decision making process that has absolutely zero basis in fact.

Or are you now saying that wasn't what you implied?

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Quote: Sal Paradise "Plenty of people on here have explained why James Child gets these games - he is one of the best referees we have and the top teams cannot have Thaler/Silverwood/Bentham every week. Pretty simple explanation to most rational humans - why you don't seem to understand that I don't know - I probably do!!'"


Well, nobody previously seemed to think he was one of the top referees we had.....now magically one or two do for their argument. And yes maybe the top teams can't have the top refs every week, so say when Leeds play Salford or Wigan play Wakey maybe give Child that. You don't in 2012 when he's well down the pecking order of referees and still quite inexperienced randomly give him Wigan vs Saints, arguably the biggest league fixture of the season.

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Quote: Andy Gilder "And in the complete absence of any evidence to suggest that his employers have done that. I'll make my judgments on what I see and know thanks, rather than lavish speculation about an organisation's decision making process that has absolutely zero basis in fact.

Or are you now saying that wasn't what you implied?'"


You can make your judgements however you like, I don't care. You seem to be the one concerned with how I make mine.

Perhaps have a judgement then on what you can see and that is on Child randomly being awarded the Leeds vs Wigan and Wigan vs Saints games back in 2012. Surely people can't use the "he's was one of the top refs" for that because quite frankly he was 6th best at the time and we are talking about two of the biggest dates in the league calendar.

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Quote: ThePrinter "So Roby didn't get a single big game because you can find examples of his performances being criticised post match by the teams involved.

Really? Seriously? You do realise what referee you're trying to defend here don't you? James Child the guy that's been criticised by coaches for his performance more than any other ref over the last 4/5 years.

If a performance being criticised by coaches stops refs from ever getting a big game then Child would've been lucky to get Hunslet vs Whitehaven..'"

You think know that Tim Roby not getting games because of his performances is a more outlandish conclusion than James Child getting them because he is gay? That is not the conclusion of a rational non homophobic person.

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Quote: Andy Gilder "And in the complete absence of any evidence to suggest that his employers have done that. I'll make my judgments on what I see and know thanks, rather than lavish speculation about an organisation's decision making process that has absolutely zero basis in fact.

Or are you now saying that wasn't what you implied?'"


But you don't know Andy. You can make a judgement on what you would like to be the case, and perfectly entitled to do that, but you don't know it isn't something else.

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Quote: SmokeyTA "You think know that Tim Roby not getting games because of his performances is a more outlandish conclusion than James Child getting them because he is gay? That is not the conclusion of a rational non homophobic person.'"


I think saying Roby didn't get a single big game because his performances were criticised is a stupid way to try and defend Child who was criticised even more.

Both would regularly do the "lowest" games of the round for a few years but Child would randomly get plucked every so often to do Wigan vs Saints or Leeds vs Wigan or Leeds vs Warrington.

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