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| The two-point deduction is fair just for the sheer stupidity of it.
The salary cap regulations are very clear. They're right rlhererl in black and white, page 280 and 282 of the RFL operational rules. Section 5.2 clearly states that agent fees have to be declared, and section 5.6.2 clearly states that personal travel that is included in a players contract have to be declared. They are, after all, a taxable benefit.
Now if a fan on the internet can find this information within 20 seconds on Google, what did the Wigan Warriors financial team find so difficult and why?
From what it seems, Wigan have tried to mislead the RFL in failing to declare payments that the regulations unabiguously state should be declared, and they have since fought back against their own stupidity, citing weak mitigation such as "it's only £15k", "we lost the games anyway", "we had an injury crisis" and "it was the finance team's first day".
The scale of the breach isn't the issue - it's the way that Wigan accounted for costs that they clearly knew were relevant to the salary cap, and failed to disclose them.
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| Try using those excuses with HMRC and see what happens. You can bet it will cost you more than 2pts
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| Quote: LeedsLurch "Try using those excuses with HMRC and see what happens. You can bet it will cost you more than 2pts'"
And there are a lot of complicated rules for your tax. There isn’t for the salary cap. It’s on the bleedin website.
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| Quote: Clearwing "Well, what a surprise...
But we run the RFL don't we?? Find it unbelievable that the CEO of SL is seen to be sticking up for a club for a blatant rules breach, the amount is irrelevant. It is at a limit for a reason and to break that by not disclosing something suggests they knew all along. I mean its not the first time is it.
I pray that we have some relevant chants lined up..
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| Quote: Gotcha "You think a £2500 fine is sufficient?
Don`t you Gotcha?
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| Quote: batleyrhino "Fines should be 10 times the amount of the offence. Points deductions should then come in as well for 2nd offence onwards. 2 Pts deduction for second offence, 4 pts for third etc.
All fines should go The the RFL benevolent fund or suchlike'"
So it should really have been around £550k fine for Leeds then, Or does it not matter now
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| Quote: The Ghost of '99 "Wigan clearly run right up to the very limit of the cap. People keep claiming Lenagan is this great businessman but little evidence of it has been seen in an RL context. Given how close they run it if it were me I'd be sure I was fully conversant with every nuance of the cap and be absolutely sure my financial controller and head of payroll were all over it. Denying it and then appealing it for months so that it comes out on the cusp of the new season is entirely their fault. But it's no surprise they try to shift blame to people other than them.'"
Are you talking about Leneghan here or Heathrington lol
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| Quote: homme vaste "Don`t you Gotcha?'"
Nope I think it should be points deduction, which it was. The fact clubs were dumb enough to change the rules on sanctions since then doesn’t change that view either. But at least one was done knowing a points deduction wasn’t a possible sanction, even if the morals were still an issue.
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| Needs quite a few napkins on this site, a lot of egg to be wiped off
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| Think it should be a points deduction for Leeds as well as for Wigan. Personally I think it’s the only real deterrance.
A sliding scale of points deduction for % over the cap up to and including being kicked out of the playoffs (if mid season) or stripped of titles etc.
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| Quote: Him "Think it should be a points deduction for Leeds as well as for Wigan. Personally I think it’s the only real deterrance.
A sliding scale of points deduction for % over the cap up to and including being kicked out of the playoffs (if mid season) or stripped of titles etc.'"
Yeah points deduction. Don't know why these Pie fans are frothing. My opinion has always been caught over the cap then points deduction my team or not.
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| Quote: hatty "Needs quite a few napkins on this site, a lot of egg to be wiped off'"
Only done it to make you lot feel better
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| Quote: lionarmour87 "Only done it to make you lot feel better'"
Well it’s worked a treat
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| Quote: hatty "Well it’s worked a treat
Who's holier than thou ? Not us anymore
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