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Quote: Stevosfalseteeth "Wish people would stop banging on about Sutcliffe being the saviour. You (we) will all realise before long what a huge miss Sinfield is going to be. GH should have gone balls out for Widdop. Mags can't do it on his own. Lilley is one for the future. Sutty is not a half'"

Given Suttys performances AT 6 pre-injury you were clearly watching a different Sutcliffe.

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Quote: Stevosfalseteeth "Wish people would stop banging on about Sutcliffe being the saviour. You (we) will all realise before long what a huge miss Sinfield is going to be. GH should have gone balls out for Widdop. Mags can't do it on his own. Lilley is one for the future. Sutty is not a half'"


Well Sinfield has gone.
Sutcliffe is the best you have.

He may not be the saviour but he's very good and if it were me I'd build the next generation around him (and a couple of others too)
If you don't want him Wakefield could take him on loan if you pay half his wage. As a favour.

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Quote: rhinoms "Finally i like the idea of giving young lads game time so i was a bit peed off Baldwinson ,Smith didn't get longer or that Oledski/Jordan-Roberts failed to appear at all.'"


Although 8 man benches were announced apparently only 6 players were permitted to be used so 2 guys were always going to miss out. Agree that Baldwinson should've gotten several more minutes really.

Think the game showed two different attitudes. One club treating it as a key part of their build up to the new season (Wakey) and the other club just running out because it's the traditional Boxing Day fixture for the club (Leeds).

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Quote: Fallon "Today we were poor, no other word for it really.

That said, take it in context. First game of the new era, terrible conditions, England players missing, ward, Delaney, jjb, sutty and mullally out injured and its just the first game of preseason.

Golding was good and got mom. Actually thought all of the outside backs were ok. As has been said, the biggest issue was the halves. Mags never turned up and if that continues through pre season that's a huge worry. At this point though I'd chalk it up to an off day.

The forwards were generally solid with garbutt and singo doing well. Falloon looked like a no nonsense hooker though is clearly a few brain cells lighter after today. Galloway was the biggest disappointment for me. Never threatened to break a tackle and couldn't hold the ball - though he tackled well. Again, chalk it up as just one bad game but I don't want to be seeing many more like that.

Hats off to wakey. They were more enthusiastic and organised. Finn moved them around well. They know they need to start the season well to get confidence and they looked in good shape.'"

Agree with this. Awful day and too early to judge any players. Our last tackle options and general kicking were very poor. Not one decent bomb or kick to the corner. Wakey deserved it and showed a lot of hunger in defence. Think smith is after a flying start to season. They looked sharper and further down pre-season track than Leeds who were pretty dumb in the conditions

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Quote: Stevosfalseteeth "Wish people would stop banging on about Sutcliffe being the saviour. You (we) will all realise before long what a huge miss Sinfield is going to be. GH should have gone balls out for Widdop. Mags can't do it on his own. Lilley is one for the future. Sutty is not a half'"

was out in the company of widdops mum and dad earlier in the week his dad said leeds offered widdop a great deal he was very close to taking t but his dad talked him out of it, as for galloway he is a pretty average player watched him for the last 8 years , strong defence wise in the middle but a plodder ball in hand

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Quote: redcliffe rhino "was out in the company of widdops mum and dad earlier in the week his dad said leeds offered widdop a great deal he was very close to taking t but his dad talked him out of it, as for galloway he is a pretty average player watched him for the last 8 years , strong defence wise in the middle but a plodder ball in hand'"


Why would his dad talk him out of it?

Galloway a Bailey mark 2....without the niggle. icon_sad.gif ....

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Galloway is a lot better than Ryan Bailey - he at least has a desire to get stuck in - not be the 3rd man in a tackle when his team mates has done all the work. I'm sure he won't hide when the going gets tough something Bailey was very adept at doing

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Quote: nantwichexile "Why would his dad talk him out of it?

Galloway a Bailey mark 2....without the niggle. mate from what i couldd gather his dad reckoned finish his contract with saint george then go to leeds , galloway is no better than bailey your right there

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Quote: nantwichexile "Why would his dad talk him out of it? ....'"


Maybe he doesn't want to lose his free holidays in Aus icon_lol.gif

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Yesterday we wasn't at our best at all but it was a friendly and we never really turned up, but we have played alot more games than any other club in 2015 only one we missed out on was world club series which we couldn't have played in this year but apart from that we played every other game available to us also friendly against kiwis so player's will be tired but the mighty rhinos will be back to retain their titles in 2016!!

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Quote: nantwichexile "

Galloway a Bailey mark 2....without the niggle.
Based on what?

He wasn't good yesterday. No hiding from that but it's his first game, a pre season game at that, in terrible weather, in a team that was well well off its game.

If he is still turning in that level of performance 6 weeks or so into the season then yes, we have a problem and a potential dud on our hands. Until then let's give him the benefit of the doubt.

I remember a certain Keith Senior having a nightmare debut and that was from a guy who had only moved down the road, was accustomed to sl and was match fit.

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Quote: Fallon "Based on what?
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..on Recliffe Rhino's observations.

It was a response to his comments. I have no idea how he will develop as a player for us and must remain optimistic.

However, we have effectively replaced Peacock AND Kylie with just the one prop for the 2016 season (Garbutt was already with us prematurely of course).....sooo, he better had be bluddy good.

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Quote: nantwichexile "Galloway a Bailey mark 2....without the niggle.
Yay, let's start the season as we mean to go on eh! icon_thumb.gif a010.gif

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Quote: loiner81 "Yay, let's start the season as we mean to go on eh!
We can't all live in the past, on past glories icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: TOMCAT "Maybe he doesn't want to lose his free holidays in Aus
Especially if he is from Mytholmroyd or Hebden Bridge way....just looking at the news on all the rain and flooding you're getting over there at the moment. Terrible news...I am presently living in Cyprus and enjoying a cup of tea with the English newspapers whilst sitting outside in the sunshine.

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