I like Carney, McDermott & O'Conner, the rest are cr*p.

Eddy H is past it, far too many mistakes.

I think O'Connor is awful. He can't speak well enough and usually just comes out with cliches. Also he has a habit of almost rabidly defending his former teams, especially Widnes, and his friends. A good example being the recent Gareth Hock incident. O'Connor was embarrassing on Boots n All defending Hock. We'd just been played the video of Hock charging the ref. Even the most ardent defender of Hock would say he didn't do enough to avoid the contact. But Terry believed it was entirely accidental, Hock didn't change his line and didn't dip his shoulder. In complete contradiction to the video we'd just been shown.
He should be consigned to doing daft, "fun" segments on Boots n All at the most.

It's not a criticism of him as a man, he's just rubbish on TV and I've never quite understood why he's been given so much responsibility and airtime on Sky.

Carney & Wells are the saviours. Their, all too brief, analysis of each half is the high point by a country mile. I also prefer Carney as main presenter now too.
If Sky could just keep Eddie to commentating and not attempted analysis, or droning on about the same thing over and over again, or massively over-hyping one player that'd be a great start. Because when he commentates he's pretty good in my opinion.
Stevo can be a bit annoying sometimes, but he still gets a bit of a pass because he's a legend.
Clarke, I just wish he would stop trying to be the fan of one team or another and be a professional. If he did he'd have some decent points to make.

That'd do then for me.
Carney as main presenter.
Eddie & Stevo as commentators only, with maybe Clarke as a 3rd if he can be more professional.
And a studio guest to discuss the game with Carney and Wells' analysis bit too.

Simples. No need for anyone else. Too many times the commentary team is a discussion group, so get rid of 1 or 2 of them and concentrate on commentating.

What this shows is Eddie's insecurity - when it looked like Carney was the rising star Eddie did everything to belittle and embarrass him. Now Carney is in his box and not a threat he has left him alone. Clarke is his next target - Eddie has had his day and it is embarrassing to see him clinging on like this

eddie should be gone. he's past his sell by date.

carney as anchorman in the studio.
poach dave woods as commentator.
wells to do analysis

If we were to poach a commentator then i would go for Andrew Voss,he was outstanding on Premier Sports during the world cup

but would he come?

He was asked this during the WC and he said he would love to work over here,he is already employed by Sky TV too in NZ

If Andrew Voss came even my wife would watch superleague.
She loved his commentaries during the world cup but hates Eddie & Stevo with a passion.
That is simply because of their commentary style since she doesn't know either of them from Adam.
Re O'Connor, I agree about his poor delivery & constant use of cliches.
I also consider Carney & Wells to be very good.
Clarke, really rated him as a player but now his bias really grates.
I think it's time for Eddie & Stevo to be put out to grass, in how many professions do you do the same job at the same level for over 30 years?
I think all commentary teams in all sports need to be refreshed far more frequently than currently occurs. Over time they tend to become parodies & caricatures of themselves.

Just don't like the set-up of having around 5 voices talking during the match. You have Eddie, Stevo, Clarke, one other guest (McDermott, Rea, Cullen etc) and then Stuart Cummins, also we have sideline reporters.

I don't see this in any other sport, football on all channels and RL on the bbc just have the normal 2 man team which will jump to the studio guest once or twice a half for 30 secs.

Even if they got new guys in it'll still have a problem of being overloaded.

OF-Vossy ,Rabbits and co are all top quality commentators as are their summerisers.

You don't say.

Cot damn it's like piccadilly ciricus in that commentary box. What an earth are they thinking? Well what we need to do is pack as many clowns and co-commentators in as is humanly possible.

At first i thought having cummins in was OK, for explaining decisions and stuff. But he has all the charisma of a dried out dog turd and he ends up having little squabbles with eddie and stevo about technicalities.....or worse, we get even more over the top scrutiny on e-v-e-r-y single call in the game.........was there a fingertip in there?

Not sure what Cummins is there for, to be honest.

He's put in a very difficult position of sometimes having to be critical of former friends and colleagues, and on occasion tries to convince himself black is white just so he doesn't have to.

Stevo just contradicts everyone for the sake of causing an argument. Unlike Phil Gould though, his points are more often than not total nonsense. He has a set of cliches that get rolled out every game.

Time to show both the door, and take the fat-headed oaf O'Connor with them. He can come back when he can put a sentence together.

A commentary professional to replace Hemmings - Voss, Dave Woods, Bill Arthur

One summariser - rotate McDermott, Wells and Cullen

One presenter - Carney and the two summarisers who aren't doing commentary.

Yep. Got to say I really enjoyed the BBC commentary and presentation during the World Cup.

2, sometimes 3 commentators.
Chappers as host with some knowledgeable guests who can have a bit of a laugh but it's not like a discussion down the pub.

I never LOL. Im more of a haha person but.

LOL