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So teams are going down at the end of this season? How is it working if they are dropping it from 14 to 12? Presumably just the bottom two go and then no-one comes up until the end of next season (2015)?

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Quote: roger daly "Don't you think Leeds will be near the bottom'"


No, why, do you?

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London & Wakey definitely!

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Quote: William Eve "They already are.

However, there's a price to be paid for engaging in such liaisons.

That price is relegation.

Just ask Hunslet.

That price could even be worse than relegation.

Just ask Bramley.'"


Hmm, while I would not question the actual possibility that Wakefield are probably going to be in the mix the fact that you think GH will engineer Wakefield's demise is quite laughable... which club did we play in our biggest SL home gate of the 2013 season again? Oh, that is right, the regular rounds don't matter & GH doesn't care about it or the 8k worth of extra tickets & walk-ups he pocketed!

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Quote: Inflatable_Armadillo "Hmm, while I would not question the actual possibility that Wakefield are probably going to be in the mix the fact that you think GH will engineer Wakefield's demise is quite laughable...'"

I opined earlier that GH wouldn't want to lose Bradford from SL from an income POV, therefore my guess would be that the other club to be relegated (sacrificed) will be Rhinos de facto dual-reg club Wakefield because it's between those two IMO.

I said nothing about GH deliberately engineering Wakefield's demise. I merely indicated that history teaches us that any club entering into any kind of relationship or significant dealings could well end up in a far worse position and fighting for their survival as was the case at Bramley, Keighley and now Hunslet. Some may believe Wakefield have nothing to worry about given KH's current role there. She was also one of the directors at Bramley just prior to them being wound up which could well be mere coincidence of course in a [i"being in the wrong place at the wrong time"[/i kind of way.

Quote: Inflatable_Armadillo "which club did we play in our biggest SL home gate of the 2013 season again?'"

Last season the biggest home gate for Leeds was against Wakefield... 18,837 compared to the 16,604 in attendance for the Bradford home game. But you know as well as I do that the attendance for the Wakey game was a fluke on a day of extreme warm temperatures and a sultry warm evening which tempted more people outdoors than usual.

Quote: Inflatable_Armadillo "Oh, that is right, the regular rounds don't matter & GH doesn't care about it or the 8k worth of extra tickets & walk-ups he pocketed!'"

Leeds attendance for the home game against Wakefield in 2012 was a meagre 12,272 which was the lowest of the season. Even the Catalan (Att: 13,282) and London (Att: 13,109) games attracted more.

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Quote: William Eve "Last season the biggest home gate for Leeds was against Wakefield... 18,837 compared to the 16,604 in attendance for the Bradford home game. But you know as well as I do that the attendance for the Wakey game was a fluke on a day of extreme warm temperatures and a sultry warm evening which tempted more people outdoors than usual.

Leeds attendance for the home game against Wakefield in 2012 was a meagre 12,272 which was the lowest of the season. Even the Catalan (Att

But you know as I do that the low attendance in 2012 was the fluke caused by playing on a Monday night having been rearranged from Leeds' earlier WCC appearance.

Games vs Wakey @ Headingley in SL in last 10 years.
2013 - 18,837 - Friday
2012 - 12,272 - Monday
2011 - 15,511 - Friday
2010 - 13,869 - Saturday
2009 - 15,643 - Saturday
2008 - 17,647 - Friday
2007 - 16,654 - Friday.......19,776 - Friday
2006 - 13,597 - Friday
2005 - 18,257 - Easter Monday.....17,619 - Friday
2004 - 15,629 - Sunday

Average of those 12 games = 16,275
Average, excluding that 2012 game = 16,640
Average of those on Friday night = 17,091

Maybe we just happen to always play Wakey on sultry warm evenings icon_wink.gif

If you listen closely you'll hear the sound of William's agenda dying a slow death.

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Quote: ThePrinter "But you know as I do that the low attendance in 2012 was the fluke caused by playing on a Monday night having been rearranged from Leeds' earlier WCC appearance.'"

Of course I knew that which is the reason why it was important to demonstrate the agenda behind Inflatable Armadillo's highly selective attendance by countering it with an equally selective attendance from the previous season.

Quote: ThePrinter "Games vs Wakey @ Headingley in SL in last 10 years.
2013 - 18,837 - Friday'"

The attendance was 18,387

Quote: ThePrinter "2012 - 12,272 - Monday
2011 - 15,511 - Friday
2010 - 13,869 - Saturday
2009 - 15,643 - Saturday
2008 - 17,647 - Friday
2007 - 16,654 - Friday.......19,776 - Friday
2006 - 13,597 - Friday
2005 - 18,257 - Easter Monday.....17,619 - Friday
2004 - 15,629 - Sunday

Average of those 12 games
Or maybe we just compare the attendances for all the Rhinos home games against Wakefield and Bradford instead?

Leeds V Wakefield Total Attendance (Regular Season 2004 to 2013) Difference
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Leeds V Wakefield Total Attendance (Regular Season Entire SL-era) Difference
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Quote: ThePrinter "If you listen closely you'll hear the sound of William's agenda dying a slow death.'"

I'm quite certain that the sound of GH's agenda would be a preference for Bradford to remain in SL rather than Wakefield from a maximisation of revenue POV. Especially when one considers the extra 3,437 paying spectators through the gates at Headingley on average, which... if we conservatively estimate an average spend of £20 per person on tickets, beer, food, programmes, etc... would equate to an extra £68,740 in takings per home game.

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The Wakey attendance last year was also inflated by the huge numbers of kids (and presumably parents) attending as part of the half time 'entertainment'. I can't remember what it was exactly but there were literally hundreds of them.

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Quote: William Eve "Of course I knew that which is the reason why it was important to demonstrate the agenda behind Inflatable Armadillo's highly selective attendance by countering it with an equally selective attendance from the previous season.'"


Yet you described it as a fluke, when it was much nearer the usual average than 2012's attendance......so no you didn't know really, you jumped in and got caught out. 4.0498046875:5
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