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| Quote: MattyLeeds "#Rugbyleague RFL statement - The RFL have admitted that video referee Steve Ganson made an incorrect decision in awarding a try to Chris Green of Hull FC in the closing stages Super League fixture against Hull Kingston Rovers at the Etihad Stadium today.
RFL Head of Match Officials Jon Sharp said: “We have reviewed the decision and it is clear that Steve made the wrong call.
“Honesty and accountability are important to the Match Officials Department and we can only apologise for the error.
“Steve has been in contact with Hull Kingston Rovers and offered his apologies: he is one of the sport’s most experienced officials and deeply regrets having got it wrong.
“As with all fixtures, we will conduct a full review of the performance of our match officials following Magic Weekend and will take what steps we can to ensure that mistakes like this do not happen again.”
Experienced official and yet gives a try which everyone else saw as being offside. Can't beat Steve Ganson balls up can you?!
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| And guess who is supposed to be Video Ref for our game.....
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| Quote: Lawrie L "And guess who is supposed to be Video Ref for our game.....'"
Not going to happen...
Or is it?
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| Quote: Lawrie L "And guess who is supposed to be Video Ref for our game.....'"
After this & both the RFL & seemingly the official admitting he made a gross error then he should be suspended from officiating at any level until a full review has been conducted.
The RFL, assuming that they don't want Steve Ganson to go, have to now order a replay of the game. I don't know what they will do about a venue, but I assume Headingley could made available?
The governing body can't admit that a match official has made an error and not take some sort of action, either to punish the official severely or provide an opportunity for Hull KR to try for the points again. I would like to think that Hull FC would offer to play the game again in both the interests of fairness & also of protecting their integrity to the people of Hull.
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| Quote: Inflatable_Armadillo "After this & both the RFL & seemingly the official admitting he made a gross error then he should be suspended from officiating at any level until a full review has been conducted.
The RFL, assuming that they don't want Steve Ganson to go, have to now order a replay of the game. I don't know what they will do about a venue, but I assume Headingley could made available?
The governing body can't admit that a match official has made an error and not take some sort of action, either to punish the official severely or provide an opportunity for Hull KR to try for the points again. I would like to think that Hull FC would offer to play the game again in both the interests of fairness & also of protecting their integrity to the people of Hull.'"
Did you suggest this after Millennium Magic in 2007?
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| Quote: Lawrie L "Did you suggest this after Millennium Magic in 2007?'"
No, but as already explained, there is a big difference between the two incidents IMO. Ganson made a mistake in 2007 while being the man in the middle. His mistake was ultimately that he didn't go to the video ref to check on-side off-side, but equally he made his call & while it was wrong he did it as the man in the middle who has to make these calls based on his understand of the evidence. Thaler, didn't make the same mistake as Ganson, he did ask for a video ref call. Had Thaler just given the try, as Ganson gave it, I would have said exactly what I said in 2007, he got it wrong but the result should stand, he made a mistake, a big one, but it was just that, a mistake made based on his understanding of the evidence.
Lets look at 2007... everyone's assumption, based on clear video evidence after the call made by Ganson, the wrong one, was that the video ref would have clearly spotted that Tansey was offside at the kick? He would have ruled a no try & awarded Bradford a penalty & they would have correctly taken the result. But what would have happened if (can't now remember who the video ref was in 2007) the video ref had still awarded the try... what then? This is the hypothetical situation we should using to judge today's Ganson error on, not the one he actually made in 2007.
A replay, IMO, should be ordered to protect the integrity of the sport.
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| Quote: Inflatable_Armadillo "After this & both the RFL & seemingly the official admitting he made a gross error then he should be suspended from officiating at any level until a full review has been conducted.
The RFL, assuming that they don't want Steve Ganson to go, have to now order a replay of the game. I don't know what they will do about a venue, but I assume Headingley could made available?
The governing body can't admit that a match official has made an error and not take some sort of action, either to punish the official severely or provide an opportunity for Hull KR to try for the points again. I would like to think that Hull FC would offer to play the game again in both the interests of fairness & also of protecting their integrity to the people of Hull.'"
Madness.
Sport is all about human endeavor and foibles otherwise they'd just show a video game where nothing ever goes wrong and the computer makes all the decisions based on its own animations.
If this was a normal weekend and it wasn't one of the televised games then no-one would be any the wiser, certainly no-one outside of Hull anyway, you win some you lose some, HKR are owed one and they'll more than likely get it in the next few weeks.
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| Quote: Inflatable_Armadillo "
The RFL, assuming that they don't want Steve Ganson to go, have to now order a replay of the game. I don't know what they will do about a venue, but I assume Headingley could made available?
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Don't the RFL own Odsal too?
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| Quote: JerryChicken "
If this was a normal weekend and it wasn't one of the televised games then no-one would be any the wiser,'"
No video referee either
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| Phil Clarke made the point after the game that Magic Weekend is the one round where every game is televised so it's more likely that any refereeing mistake will be exposed to more publicity as all 7 games are on TV live rather than just the usual 2.
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| Quote: Inflatable_Armadillo "I would like to think that Hull FC would offer to play the game again in both the interests of fairness & also of protecting their integrity to the people of Hull.'"
Why? did Hull FC do something wrong?
What a ridiculous thing to say
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| Quote: FoxyRhino "Phil Clarke made the point after the game that Magic Weekend is the one round where every game is televised so it's more likely that any refereeing mistake will be exposed to more publicity as all 7 games are on TV live rather than just the usual 2.'"
True
However given this was a video ref decision it makes it possible it could have happened at any Sky game
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| Loves the limelight does ST Steve good to hear Brian Carney not let Cummins try and waffle his way round a Wire Bentham balls up aswell when Ratchford clearly dragged the ST's player into touch.
Time for a new structure for the Officials at Red Hall with their actions facing repurcussions when they feck up on a big scale ala yesterday.
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| Quote: giddyupoldfella "Why? did Hull FC do something wrong?
What a ridiculous thing to say'"
No, Hull didn't do anything wrong of course. But everyone knows their final try should not have stood, the governing body have admitted this in writing. Why is is ridiculous to suggest that Hull FC might want an opportunity to win the game where the outcome is not decided by a gross ref'ing error?
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| Quote: rhinoms "Loves the limelight does ST Steve good to hear Brian Carney not let Cummins try and waffle his way round a Wire Bentham balls up aswell when Ratchford clearly dragged the ST's player into touch.
Time for a new structure for the Officials at Red Hall with their actions facing repurcussions when they feck up on a big scale ala yesterday.'"
Won't happen mate
You and I both know it's 'old boys' club up there
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