Think people are encouraged with the first half. We played well at times and poorly at others. I'd be more worried if we played well for the full game and still lost....were do you go from there if no obvious room for improvement? Things to work on clearly when we next play them but some stuff went well that we can take into the next encounter. A right winger in decent form would've been a big help to us and made a difference.

Mcshane is quality,Roberts back next week as well.
Thought young Tom Holmes did ok though

Handley is awful.

Consistently out of position, slow and can't tackle.

Rinsed 3 times in 20 minutes by Shenton and Eden. Not even close to being man on man.

Remember Briscoe being touted by NRL clubs? Yeah, me too.

JJ and McGuire again ith STUPID penalties at the start of the second half. Will they ever learn?

More brainless coaching - who in their right mind has 2 backs on the bench - one a winger against a rampant Cas side , with their pack - BRAINLESS !!
Made worse when one of the other subs is Mullally - Aichurch mark 2 - looks like TARZAN , plays like Jane -!!!!

Whatever Baldwinson`s current level of ability - he had to be on the bench today.

Game plan today - one major task, clatter Gale - anybody see any sign of it !!!

This standard of brainless coaching cannot continue.

McShane is such a good player. What he lacks in speed he makes up for intelligence. Wouldn't trade Macca for any hooker in SL .

Tough game today, of course we are beatable, we've lost 3 games, but it's about responding after a defeat and how to win tough. We have actually done that a couple of times this year and I will include today because that first half was as physical as any we've been in. But we came out and applied kick pressure in the second half, forced errors and took our chances.

To have a winger and burrow on the bench leaving just 2 out and out forwards I thought was really poor. Baldwinson deserved a game tonight imo .

Re the hooking sequence at Leeds when McShane was coming through. Diskin went at the end of 2010, Buderus went at the end of 2011 - McShane inherited tne coveted number 9 shirt for 2012 but basically started out the season playing second fiddle to McDermott's choice of starting Rob Burrow there - until the fortuatous pick up of Shaun Lunt mid-season, after which McShane barely got a look in at all. 2013 McShane retained the number 9 shirt but Burrow again was preferred as starting hooker until an injury to McGuire shifted Burrow back into the starting halves with McShane finally getting a run as starting hooker. As soon as McGuire returned, McDermott returned Burrow to hooker and McShane didn't feature again and was out of the club before the start of the 2014 season with the 9 shirt going to Paul Aiton.

It appears fairly clear that McDermott didn't ultimately rate McShane or Liam Hood or Robbie Ward who had all been given a taste of 1st grade under his tenure before Aiton's arrival.

A few of you can simmer down a bit now, small town of 40k absolutely wallaped and humiliated the big city. More fans and better players needed ladies and gentlemen

You forgot can't play the ball or catch. If he's slow though how come he got closest to catching Tom Holmes from the opposite wing on his breakaway try.



Didn't Leeds only concede two penalties all game? One was Briscoe's blatant obstruction on Eden on a high kick the other McGuire marginally offside on a kick chase. Should have listened to Bentham who gave him plenty of warning he was off. Jones-Buchanan blameless on that one, stayed onside from Moon's kick downfield.

Handley on the bench was an odd selection on the face of it.
I have no insight here and don't know if Briscoe is carrying an injury or not but have thought a couple of times this year that he looked like a man who might have non work related issues on his mind.

In short a bit distracted.

Just watched BMs after match interview.
Not sure I was at the same game.

Can Walker play on the wing? That's probably the next cab off the rank.

I feel a bit for both Briscoe and Handley. Briscoe's coming off some bad injuries, and it may just be that he's never going to be quite right again. Handley hasn't had a proper run in one position this year. He'd personally probably have done better just staying at Fev and getting some confidence in one position or other. Either way they are both shocking ATM, but you can't move Watkins to the wing unless there's no other option IMO.

Golding's weird. The fact that a kid who looks a natural halfback doesn't get involved in any passing moves is really odd.

Right side defence has been a problem for over 18mths that's not down to just Briscoe or Handley.
We still lack a genuine Leader and Architect in the Halves and that Pack lacks genuine power and bite over a full 80 minutes.
Wrt Sutty and Goal-kicking we are finally seeing what he's always been capable of but now he's not playing jabbed up on one knee without proper re-hab.
We make the same dumb mistakes with and without the ball and having only 2 forwards on the bench when already missing 2 Props and Abbo was just ridiculous.

Re McShane, he got a lot of stick on here IIRC about his lack of fitness. He always looked to have a good rugby brain.

Handley lacks rapid acceleration and his positional sense is woeful. He was directly responsible for two and possibly the third Eden try.
Briscoe looks mentally shot and is clearly lacking confidence. I'm not sure what good playing and then replacing him did.
McGuire is well past his best and, although I have always been a big fan, he needs to be released.

On reflection, i don't think we should be too peeved or disheartened by that showing.We matched them for the first 40 minutes, the killer was we had 3 big name pack men in Galloway, Garbutt and Ablett missing and if we would have had them i don't think there would have been very much more than a couple of points in the game either way. Cas have been very fortunate so far not to suffer several injuries in bunches, especially to key players and have been able to name the same 17 most weeks barring a player or two. But that's rugby, hopefully we get our best 17 on the field when it counts at the business end then we'll see.

What is seriously worrying as we can all see is our right edge. An absolute joke against Catalans and it's something Cas have exploited on several occasions now.