FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!
  
FORUMS > Leeds Rhinos > ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
2333 posts in 157 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
RankPostsTeam
Club Captain5850
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 20178 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2024Sep 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
75810_1643888256.png
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_75810.png



Quote: Jack Burton "We'll get a message/interview from the owners after the window shuts, like we have done for the last few years. Personally, I don't mind the silence, I understand the anxiety, and I definitely want deals done, but there's no need for fans to know everything.

I will say though, a lot of the reasons fans are confused is because the YEP have been either putting out information that they haven't properly verified, or replying to people on twitter with their assumptions, which people then take as gospel. Frankly, the YEP and the local journalists, in general are no more reliable than any others, and have been becoming less and less reliable ever since we were promoted.'"


Graham Smyth said the credible source is at the club who gave them the information basically lied to them to try keep the clause details quite. He got told last year Summerville had a release clause but then this year the same club source denied it.

Fans don't need to know everything, that's not the point. But, we need to know what's going on following the sales of Gray, Summerville, Rutter. They need to calm the storm. Why didn't they tie Rutter down to a new contract with a release clause next year once Gray and Summerville went... they know he had a release clause and Brighton had bid twice for him a few weeks ago... they've let him go here... they've either seen the pound signs or its gross bad management. The red bull money was meant to keep our best players (bar 1 or 2 needing to be sold). They were Marathe's words.

This offseason was meant to be the settled one with a couple of key players sold and heavily invest, in Marathe's own words after the bomb shell of Gray being sold, to get us the best squad we can to get us automatically promoted.

We've now sold our best 3 players, with only 15 days left in the window and need to bring 4 or 5 quality players in. We are playing catch up yet again at the start of the season with 4 tough games coming up.....

We've only got 19 senior players currently. We've gone from promotion favourites to possible playoff contenders. Other clubs will know we are desperate now and takes away our negotiation power. They will have to pull 4 quality rabbits from the hat and very quickly..

RankPostsTeam
First Team Player2838No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 20204 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2024Sep 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
78089_1686152387.png
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_78089.png



I'm not convinced by Smyth's reasoning. This has happened several times now where he's said he was given the information from a club source, only for it to change fairly quickly. Either, he needs to get a new source, or he needs to stop printing unverified information. Also, I'm pretty sure contractual information is private and confidential, so it's illegal to disclose an individual's employment conditions, so anyone in the media who says a player has a clause or not should be taken with more than a pinch of salt.

At the end of the day, any club outside of European qualification is a potential selling club, this is especially true for clubs outside the top 5 leagues. There's simply no money in these leagues, and they're not very attractive propositions to the majority of players, especially a league as long and gruelling as the championship.

What more do fans expect, really? Yes, we're a big club, but we're subject to the same rules and challenges as any other club in our position. Our best players will all want to leave eventually, and most will have some clause in their contracts. It's just the reality of where we are. Do we really need an explanation about these transfers when it's pretty self explanatory?

I'd rather the club just shut up and get on with trying to sign some players, that is the only thing that will really calm the fans down.

RankPostsTeam
International Board Member7168
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 200222 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2024Sep 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Interesting that we are the second highest club in Europe for player transfers this window.
It`s understandable the fans want answers having been promised an investment in the squad by Paraag in order to get us promoted.
It shows either naivety or negligence not tying Rutter down to a better contract especially as we tried to match the offer he got from Brighton albeit too late.
I agree that we should not be privy to what is going on behind closed doors and the only way to appease the fans it to bring in at least 4 new quality signings hopefully before our next home game.
Failure to do it by the end of the transfer window will be a disaster.

RankPostsTeam
First Team Player2838No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 20204 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2024Sep 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
78089_1686152387.png
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_78089.png



To be fair regarding offering Rutter a new contract, contracts take months to negotiate, so even if they offered him a new deal at the end of last season, they probably wouldn't have agreed it by now. Anyway, I bet most fans wouldn't have expected anyone would pay 40m for him. A lot of fans (not me) wanted to sell him last year when Lyon and Dortmund were offering 25m.

Anyway, it's done and we have to move on. Lot's of hard lessons to learn for all involved, even us fans.

RankPostsTeam
International Board Member7168
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 200222 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2024Sep 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



I would have been happy to see him go during his time at the club along with Gnonto.
If we could bring in players with experience for 10/15 million then the days of Rutter, Summerville, Gnonto will be a thing of the past.
My worry is we end up panic buying, spending 15/20 million and we are worse off then we were 2 years ago.
I would like Johnstone from Palace as our next keeper but Farke is too loyal to Meslier
The same goes for Bamford and Piroe who I thought at the time was a good signing but don`t think he fits the position Farke wants him to play.
Play him as an out and out 9 as he is too slow as the10.
Now if we beat the Baggies tomorrow all will be forgiven!

RankPostsTeam
Club Captain5850
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 20178 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2024Sep 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
75810_1643888256.png
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_75810.png



Quote: chapylad "Interesting that we are the second highest club in Europe for player transfers this window.
It`s understandable the fans want answers having been promised an investment in the squad by Paraag in order to get us promoted.
It shows either naivety or negligence not tying Rutter down to a better contract especially as we tried to match the offer he got from Brighton albeit too late.
I agree that we should not be privy to what is going on behind closed doors and the only way to appease the fans it to bring in at least 4 new quality signings hopefully before our next home game.
Failure to do it by the end of the transfer window will be a disaster.'"


Yep spot on

RankPostsTeam
Club Captain5850
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 20178 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2024Sep 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
75810_1643888256.png
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_75810.png



Mike McGrath confining Leeds are looking at Jack Clarke closely and it’s one to watch

RankPostsTeam
First Team Player2838No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 20204 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2024Sep 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
78089_1686152387.png
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_78089.png



He'll go to the PL. Spending 25m on a player in the championship is probably the equivalent to spending 100m on a player in the PL. I just don't see it happening

RankPostsTeam
Club Captain5850
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 20178 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2024Sep 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
75810_1643888256.png
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_75810.png



Defensively solid but woeful going forward today. Piroe James were woeful. Joseph poor, Gonoto not much better. Still it’s a decent point at a tough ground

RankPostsTeam
International Board Member7168
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 200222 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2024Sep 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



I`d have taken a point all day after our last 2 games.
Aaronssen far too easy to push off the ball Joseph not yet physically up to it against solid non compromising defenders, Piroe is offering nothing same with James and as for Bamford we would be better playing Joffy.
Against Boro he lost the ball too many times, botched passes and one shot that went 30 yards wide.
Get rid.
We need to bring in some experienced forward from somewhere.
Not another project at this stage.
The defence was good today though.

RankPostsTeam
Club Coach24330
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 200420 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2024Sep 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
11400_1493633977.gif
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_11400.gif



only saw the first half as I'm away. I'd have taken a clean sheet and a point too. get some players in next week especially a 10 and 8

RankPostsTeam
Club Captain5850
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 20178 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2024Sep 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
75810_1643888256.png
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_75810.png



We had no idea what to do in transition. Rutter has left a huge hole. You can see the players have lost that swagger and are a bit shell shocked. Midfield and Piroe were clueless progressing the ball. Worst game I’ve seen James have.. Jospeh couldn’t keep the ball.

If we don’t bring in 3 or 4 good players in we’ll struggle to make playoffs it’s quite staggering

RankPostsTeam
International Star1361No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 201113 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2024Sep 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

"Leeds is the greatest club in Rugby League" Alex Murphy 2011:



There’s so much wrong with this team offensively. We had the same problems the back end of last season even when we had Rutter, Summerville and Gray. As said above, the transition from defence through midfield into the final third is snail’s pace. Poirot should stick to solving mysteries, he should be nowhere the team. He’s turned out to be a terrible signing. My priority would be to sign a genuine left winger with pace. We need the threat of running in behind teams, there’s only James that currently offers that threat. Gnonto never was and never is going to be a winger. He needs to be doing his work centrally nearer Joseph. Get a proper winger, move Gnonto to where Poirot has been playing, and throw Poirot in the skip with all the empty beer glasses and coffee cups. We may see the best of Joseph if we can start getting some decent ball across a bit earlier, he’s not one to destroy defenders in behind with his pace. We’re only gonna see that with a change of personnel, you won’t see it with the current team.

RankPostsTeam
International Board Member7168
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 200222 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2024Sep 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Jack Clarke might be an option with his pace with Gnonto playing the Rutter role.

RankPostsTeam
First Team Player2838No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 20204 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2024Sep 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
78089_1686152387.png
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_78089.png



There's no way we spend 20m+ on a single player whilst we're in the championship

2333 posts in 157 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
2333 posts in 157 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>



All views expressed are those of the author and not necessarily those of the RLFANS.COM or its subsites.

Whilst every effort is made to ensure that news stories, articles and images are correct, we cannot be held responsible for errors. However, if you feel any material on this website is copyrighted or incorrect in any way please contact us using the link at the top of the page so we can remove it or negotiate copyright permission.

RLFANS.COM, the owners of this website, is not responsible for the content of its sub-sites or posts, please email the author of this sub-site or post if you feel you find an article offensive or of a choice nature that you disagree with.

Copyright 1999 - 2024 RLFANS.COM

You must be 18+ to gamble, for more information and for help with gambling issues see https://www.begambleaware.org/.



Please Support RLFANS.COM


5.1552734375:5
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
12m
IMG
Fantastic Mr
9
20m
Salford H Moved to Thursday
Cruncher
106
20m
Squad for London
MorePlaymake
33
22m
TV Games - Not Hull
ComeOnYouUll
2750
42m
Rumours thread
Trojan Horse
2232
49m
Film game
karetaker
3742
Recent
Recruitment rumours and links
Uncle Rico
3075
Recent
This weeks disciplinary
The Reaper
1344
Recent
York City Knights home
wakeytrin
52
Recent
Wolves again
the-bearded-
3
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
13s
bulls on Sunday
Ilkley Fax
22
18s
Round 26 Wigan Away
Sir Gregory
146
48s
Rumours thread
Trojan Horse
2232
58s
Round 27 HKR Away
Once were Lo
14
1m
Squad for London
MorePlaymake
33
1m
Planning for next season
Jack Gaskell
101
1m
Film game
karetaker
3742
1m
Rumours and signings v9
NickyKiss
28754
1m
New Players
the-bearded-
83
1m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
62457
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Wigan Seal League Leaders Trophy By Thrashing Salford
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Barrow
FOREVERTRIN
6
TODAY
Holly Spurr Interview
JamieRobinso
1
TODAY
Wolves again
the-bearded-
3
TODAY
Academy Players Promoted to First Team Squad
Simba16
2
TODAY
Squads - Leopards v Saints
Deeeekos
2
TODAY
Round 27 HKR Away
Once were Lo
14
TODAY
Squad for London
MorePlaymake
33
TODAY
Hull FC preview
Hessle Roade
2
TODAY
Halifax A
Wigan Bull
4
TODAY
East stand
PopTart
12
TODAY
Locations of League
Wollo-Wollo-
1
TODAY
Matt Parcell to leave at seasons end
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
Huddersfiels to get new stadium
RobRiches
2
TODAY
IMG
Fantastic Mr
9
TODAY
Leaving players
Murphy
1
TODAY
bulls on Sunday
Ilkley Fax
22
TODAY
Concerts at Stadiums
Fantastic Mr
11
TODAY
Finn out Murrell in
faxcar
11
TODAY
Playoff Semi Final
MattyB
3
TODAY
Bulls Accounts up to Nov 2023
Highlander
20
TODAY
Shareholders Meeting
Scarlet Pimp
36
TODAY
James Clark
Jake the Peg
6
TODAY
Le Cats at home - Los Alomos Custers Last Stand
Marcus's Bic
57
TODAY
Realistic targets for 2025
the cal trai
31
TODAY
2024 Southstandercom Prediction Competition Week 27
ducknumber1
33
TODAY
Club Statement
UllFC
49
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
Wigan Seal League Leaders Trop..
211
Wakefield Trinity Sweep Aside ..
856
Catalans Keep Season Alive Wit..
628
Salford Ensure Play-Offs And S..
742
Ruthless Wigan Thrash the Rhin..
774
Huddersfield Giants Hold Off L..
1086
Salford Close In On The Play O..
1017
Leigh Leopards Up To Fourth Af..
1126
Leeds Rhinos Into the Six Afte..
1102
Wigan Warriors Defeat Hull KR ..
1132
Wane Names Provisional Squad f..
1503
Leeds Rhinos Ride Their Luck F..
1458
Wigan Warriors Level Top As Ca..
1595
Castleford Tigers Inflict Anot..
1518
Leigh Into the Six After Beati..
1704