FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!
  
FORUMS > Leeds Rhinos > ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
2570 posts in 172 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
RankPostsTeam
Club Coach24432
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 200420 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
11400_1493633977.gif
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_11400.gif



that's my worry

RankPostsTeam
Club Captain5943
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 20178 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
75810_1643888256.png
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_75810.png



Szmodics deal to Ipswich nearly done. Honestly what a joke. The owners need to front up here and bloody quickly. Elland rd crowd will go nuclear soon.

RankPostsTeam
International Board Member7267
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 200222 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Probably just as well we are away from home this Saturday otherwise the atmosphere could be toxic.
Szmodics would have been ideal in the Rutter role but once again we sit on our hands like we did with Moore who is in a different class to Bamford and Piroe.
One theory about how we played last night could be down to the team knowing Rutter was leaving and it affected them on the pitch.
He is highly rated and thought of by the players so you never know.
Just a thought not an excuse.

RankPostsTeam
Fringe Player893No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Apr 20223 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Giving Rutter a £40m buyout clause when he cost £30 odd million made it a very risky deal for Leeds with not much upside.

Signed at Xmas but both Marsch and Sam would not play him in a team sinking into relegation. Came good last year but not much profit made.

Presume Gnonto has an exit clause as well, if Everton come back in we will really be in a mess.

We are now in a weak position yet again as everyone knows we desperately need players, have money and running out of time.

RankPostsTeam
Club Coach24432
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 200420 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
11400_1493633977.gif
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_11400.gif



don't think gnonto has a clause or it would have been triggered by now.
rutter was around £25m plus add ons but apparently very few add ons have been met.
Ipswich can offer premier league football and higher wages. simple as that

RankPostsTeam
Club Captain5943
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 20178 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
75810_1643888256.png
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_75810.png



It's been widely reported in last couple of days that Gnonto doesn't have any release clause. Penny for his thoughts though... his two best mates have just left. Plus Gray gone... he and the squad must wonder what the plan is.

Joe Donahue's article yesterday in YEP is very stinging of the current situation and the Owners silence. Says it's time for them to give a clear message and strategy to fans at very least. They're creating bad feeling. Also questioning their end of season and early transfer window messages to fans. Worth a read and it's spot on.

RankPostsTeam
First Team Player2912No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 20204 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
78089_1686152387.png
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_78089.png



We'll get a message/interview from the owners after the window shuts, like we have done for the last few years. Personally, I don't mind the silence, I understand the anxiety, and I definitely want deals done, but there's no need for fans to know everything.

I will say though, a lot of the reasons fans are confused is because the YEP have been either putting out information that they haven't properly verified, or replying to people on twitter with their assumptions, which people then take as gospel. Frankly, the YEP and the local journalists, in general are no more reliable than any others, and have been becoming less and less reliable ever since we were promoted.

RankPostsTeam
Club Captain5943
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 20178 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
75810_1643888256.png
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_75810.png



Quote: Jack Burton "We'll get a message/interview from the owners after the window shuts, like we have done for the last few years. Personally, I don't mind the silence, I understand the anxiety, and I definitely want deals done, but there's no need for fans to know everything.

I will say though, a lot of the reasons fans are confused is because the YEP have been either putting out information that they haven't properly verified, or replying to people on twitter with their assumptions, which people then take as gospel. Frankly, the YEP and the local journalists, in general are no more reliable than any others, and have been becoming less and less reliable ever since we were promoted.'"


Graham Smyth said the credible source is at the club who gave them the information basically lied to them to try keep the clause details quite. He got told last year Summerville had a release clause but then this year the same club source denied it.

Fans don't need to know everything, that's not the point. But, we need to know what's going on following the sales of Gray, Summerville, Rutter. They need to calm the storm. Why didn't they tie Rutter down to a new contract with a release clause next year once Gray and Summerville went... they know he had a release clause and Brighton had bid twice for him a few weeks ago... they've let him go here... they've either seen the pound signs or its gross bad management. The red bull money was meant to keep our best players (bar 1 or 2 needing to be sold). They were Marathe's words.

This offseason was meant to be the settled one with a couple of key players sold and heavily invest, in Marathe's own words after the bomb shell of Gray being sold, to get us the best squad we can to get us automatically promoted.

We've now sold our best 3 players, with only 15 days left in the window and need to bring 4 or 5 quality players in. We are playing catch up yet again at the start of the season with 4 tough games coming up.....

We've only got 19 senior players currently. We've gone from promotion favourites to possible playoff contenders. Other clubs will know we are desperate now and takes away our negotiation power. They will have to pull 4 quality rabbits from the hat and very quickly..

RankPostsTeam
First Team Player2912No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 20204 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
78089_1686152387.png
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_78089.png



I'm not convinced by Smyth's reasoning. This has happened several times now where he's said he was given the information from a club source, only for it to change fairly quickly. Either, he needs to get a new source, or he needs to stop printing unverified information. Also, I'm pretty sure contractual information is private and confidential, so it's illegal to disclose an individual's employment conditions, so anyone in the media who says a player has a clause or not should be taken with more than a pinch of salt.

At the end of the day, any club outside of European qualification is a potential selling club, this is especially true for clubs outside the top 5 leagues. There's simply no money in these leagues, and they're not very attractive propositions to the majority of players, especially a league as long and gruelling as the championship.

What more do fans expect, really? Yes, we're a big club, but we're subject to the same rules and challenges as any other club in our position. Our best players will all want to leave eventually, and most will have some clause in their contracts. It's just the reality of where we are. Do we really need an explanation about these transfers when it's pretty self explanatory?

I'd rather the club just shut up and get on with trying to sign some players, that is the only thing that will really calm the fans down.

RankPostsTeam
International Board Member7267
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 200222 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Interesting that we are the second highest club in Europe for player transfers this window.
It`s understandable the fans want answers having been promised an investment in the squad by Paraag in order to get us promoted.
It shows either naivety or negligence not tying Rutter down to a better contract especially as we tried to match the offer he got from Brighton albeit too late.
I agree that we should not be privy to what is going on behind closed doors and the only way to appease the fans it to bring in at least 4 new quality signings hopefully before our next home game.
Failure to do it by the end of the transfer window will be a disaster.

RankPostsTeam
First Team Player2912No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 20204 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
78089_1686152387.png
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_78089.png



To be fair regarding offering Rutter a new contract, contracts take months to negotiate, so even if they offered him a new deal at the end of last season, they probably wouldn't have agreed it by now. Anyway, I bet most fans wouldn't have expected anyone would pay 40m for him. A lot of fans (not me) wanted to sell him last year when Lyon and Dortmund were offering 25m.

Anyway, it's done and we have to move on. Lot's of hard lessons to learn for all involved, even us fans.

RankPostsTeam
International Board Member7267
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 200222 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



I would have been happy to see him go during his time at the club along with Gnonto.
If we could bring in players with experience for 10/15 million then the days of Rutter, Summerville, Gnonto will be a thing of the past.
My worry is we end up panic buying, spending 15/20 million and we are worse off then we were 2 years ago.
I would like Johnstone from Palace as our next keeper but Farke is too loyal to Meslier
The same goes for Bamford and Piroe who I thought at the time was a good signing but don`t think he fits the position Farke wants him to play.
Play him as an out and out 9 as he is too slow as the10.
Now if we beat the Baggies tomorrow all will be forgiven!

RankPostsTeam
Club Captain5943
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 20178 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
75810_1643888256.png
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_75810.png



Quote: chapylad "Interesting that we are the second highest club in Europe for player transfers this window.
It`s understandable the fans want answers having been promised an investment in the squad by Paraag in order to get us promoted.
It shows either naivety or negligence not tying Rutter down to a better contract especially as we tried to match the offer he got from Brighton albeit too late.
I agree that we should not be privy to what is going on behind closed doors and the only way to appease the fans it to bring in at least 4 new quality signings hopefully before our next home game.
Failure to do it by the end of the transfer window will be a disaster.'"


Yep spot on

RankPostsTeam
Club Captain5943
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 20178 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
75810_1643888256.png
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_75810.png



Mike McGrath confining Leeds are looking at Jack Clarke closely and it’s one to watch

RankPostsTeam
First Team Player2912No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 20204 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
78089_1686152387.png
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_78089.png



He'll go to the PL. Spending 25m on a player in the championship is probably the equivalent to spending 100m on a player in the PL. I just don't see it happening

2570 posts in 172 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
2570 posts in 172 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>



All views expressed are those of the author and not necessarily those of the RLFANS.COM or its subsites.

Whilst every effort is made to ensure that news stories, articles and images are correct, we cannot be held responsible for errors. However, if you feel any material on this website is copyrighted or incorrect in any way please contact us using the link at the top of the page so we can remove it or negotiate copyright permission.

RLFANS.COM, the owners of this website, is not responsible for the content of its sub-sites or posts, please email the author of this sub-site or post if you feel you find an article offensive or of a choice nature that you disagree with.

Copyright 1999 - 2024 RLFANS.COM

You must be 18+ to gamble, for more information and for help with gambling issues see https://www.begambleaware.org/.



Please Support RLFANS.COM


3.427734375:5
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
Recent
2025 Recruitment
Bully_Boxer
169
Recent
9000 season ticket holders announced
Bombers Doub
1
Recent
I dont think this is a good signing for the Leopards
Bent&Bon
5
Recent
Film game
karetaker
5324
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
37s
Ground Improvements
Khlav Kalash
125
1m
Hospitality packages including new refurbished Foxs Bar
AgbriggAmble
10
1m
Offiah on Salary Cap
Shifty Cat
11
1m
Shopping list for 2025
Cuddleclub
5533
1m
New Kit
matt_wire
66
2m
I dont think this is a good signing for the Leopards
Bent&Bon
5
2m
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
Rugby Raider
3900
2m
McMeekan
The Biffs Ba
15
3m
Transfer Talk V5
Ex-Swarcliff
462
3m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40591
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
9000 season ticket holders announced
Bombers Doub
1
TODAY
Merry Christmas
Victor
3
TODAY
I dont think this is a good signing for the Leopards
Bent&Bon
5
TODAY
Red Devils sign International forward
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
Hospitality packages including new refurbished Foxs Bar
AgbriggAmble
10
TODAY
Offiah on Salary Cap
Shifty Cat
11
TODAY
removing posts
Spookisback
5
TODAY
Season pass roll call
Rugby Raider
30
TODAY
Positivity Pact
Sebasteeno
3
TODAY
Jack Coventry
Wanderer
1
TODAY
A Year to Remember
Father Ted
2
TODAY
2025 Annual
JamieRobinso
1
TODAY
2025 KIT Thread
Sadfish
1
TODAY
NRL Kick Off Rules
stpatricks
7
TODAY
Garry Schofield
PopTart
6
TODAY
Out of contract 2025
Wires71
8
TODAY
Gary Schofield
hull2524
10
TODAY
Joe Phillips
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Andy Ellis
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Manoa Wacokecoke
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Jeylan Hodgson
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Mackenzie Harman
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Ben Dent
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Callum Rutland
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Harry Aldous
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Jack Aldous
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Garry Schofield
rubber ducki
14
TODAY
Lennon Bursell
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Brett Ferres
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Reece Dean
Wanderer
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
941
England's Women Demolish The W..
786
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
1041
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
836
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
1112
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
1636
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
1886
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
2141
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
1715
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
1955
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2422
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
1864
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
1951
Hull KR Survive Warrington Fig..
2135
Warrington Wolves Break Saints..
2266
POSTSONLINEREGISTRATIONSRECORD
19.64M 1,324 80,15414,103
LOGIN HERE
or REGISTER for more features!.

When you register you get access to the live match scores, live match chat and you can post in the discussions on the forums.
RLFANS Match Centre
There are currently no matches to display.
Matches on TV
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 29 768 338 430 48
Hull KR 29 731 344 387 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 27 1032 275 757 52
Toulouse 26 765 388 377 37
Bradford 28 723 420 303 36
York 29 695 501 194 32
Widnes 27 561 502 59 29
Featherstone 27 634 525 109 28
 
Sheffield 26 626 526 100 28
Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Swinton 28 484 676 -192 20
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
Hunslet 1 6 10 -4 0
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
Recent
2025 Recruitment
Bully_Boxer
169
Recent
9000 season ticket holders announced
Bombers Doub
1
Recent
I dont think this is a good signing for the Leopards
Bent&Bon
5
Recent
Film game
karetaker
5324
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
37s
Ground Improvements
Khlav Kalash
125
1m
Hospitality packages including new refurbished Foxs Bar
AgbriggAmble
10
1m
Offiah on Salary Cap
Shifty Cat
11
1m
Shopping list for 2025
Cuddleclub
5533
1m
New Kit
matt_wire
66
2m
I dont think this is a good signing for the Leopards
Bent&Bon
5
2m
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
Rugby Raider
3900
2m
McMeekan
The Biffs Ba
15
3m
Transfer Talk V5
Ex-Swarcliff
462
3m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40591
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
9000 season ticket holders announced
Bombers Doub
1
TODAY
Merry Christmas
Victor
3
TODAY
I dont think this is a good signing for the Leopards
Bent&Bon
5
TODAY
Red Devils sign International forward
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
Hospitality packages including new refurbished Foxs Bar
AgbriggAmble
10
TODAY
Offiah on Salary Cap
Shifty Cat
11
TODAY
removing posts
Spookisback
5
TODAY
Season pass roll call
Rugby Raider
30
TODAY
Positivity Pact
Sebasteeno
3
TODAY
Jack Coventry
Wanderer
1
TODAY
A Year to Remember
Father Ted
2
TODAY
2025 Annual
JamieRobinso
1
TODAY
2025 KIT Thread
Sadfish
1
TODAY
NRL Kick Off Rules
stpatricks
7
TODAY
Garry Schofield
PopTart
6
TODAY
Out of contract 2025
Wires71
8
TODAY
Gary Schofield
hull2524
10
TODAY
Joe Phillips
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Andy Ellis
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Manoa Wacokecoke
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Jeylan Hodgson
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Mackenzie Harman
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Ben Dent
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Callum Rutland
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Harry Aldous
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Jack Aldous
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Garry Schofield
rubber ducki
14
TODAY
Lennon Bursell
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Brett Ferres
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Reece Dean
Wanderer
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
941
England's Women Demolish The W..
786
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
1041
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
836
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
1112
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
1636
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
1886
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
2141
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
1715
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
1955
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2422
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
1864
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
1951
Hull KR Survive Warrington Fig..
2135
Warrington Wolves Break Saints..
2266


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!