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Quote: The Biffs Back "All 3 of these sides have plenty of young players in their first team squads and need to be supplemented by experienced players from overseas
( Some who were also under contract too) in order to make them competitive or even successful at present

IMO the most interesting thing is which of these clubs can produce the largest number of the best junior talent in the country and who will also be good enough make it into the first team at these clubs that will ultimately decide who will be most successful over the next decade


How confident are you with your current crop of young players at Wigan Rogues ?
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I am very confident that the Rhinos currently have the most talented pool of home grown players within the club which will ultimately be the nucleus of our starting squad for the next decade or so'"


I would say from the ones you may not have seen Matty Nicholson, Alex Sutton and Brad O'Neill.
At the younger end, Logan Astley, Zach Eckersley, Harvie Hill, Junior Nsemba and Toby Brannan.

In truth it's so hard to judge because of the pandemic over the last two years as I've only seen the odd games live and had to watch on Wigan tv or highlights from other clubs sites.

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "I would say from the ones you may not have seen Matty Nicholson, Alex Sutton and Brad O'Neill.
At the younger end, Logan Astley, Zach Eckersley, Harvie Hill, Junior Nsemba and Toby Brannan.

In truth it's so hard to judge because of the pandemic over the last two years as I've only seen the odd games live and had to watch on Wigan tv or highlights from other clubs sites.'"

Matty Nicholson is a very good player, him and pierce paul could be an excellent 2nd row pair in a couple of year

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Quote: mattsrhinos1978 "Matty Nicholson is a very good player, him and pierce paul could be an excellent 2nd row pair in a couple of year'"

In the last game of the academy season Nicholson played at #13 and was m.o.m. by some distance. He appears to also have developed his ball handling skills, something I hadn't noticed before. I assume he must have been working with Sean O'loughlin on that facet of his game.

We're actually well positioned for young back row forwards coming through if you add in the likes of Shorrocks, Smithies, Pierce-Paul and McDonnell but you never know how that next step will go and it will be almost impossible in reality to keep them all.

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "In the last game of the academy season Nicholson played at #13 and was m.o.m. by some distance. He appears to also have developed his ball handling skills, something I hadn't noticed before. I assume he must have been working with Sean O'loughlin on that facet of his game.

We're actually well positioned for young back row forwards coming through if you add in the likes of Shorrocks, Smithies, Pierce-Paul and McDonnell but you never know how that next step will go and it will be almost impossible in reality to keep them all.'"

Yes Smithies is very good but a bit too grubby sometimes. I like Pierce-Paul, he looks a real prospect.

I'm hoping our Sam Walters will kick on next year, physically he could make himself unplayable, we just need to see that development and mentality shine through.

Think he had a rough year for personal reasons in 2021, let's hope he can get a really good pre-season behind him and push on now. Gannon has barged him this season.

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My only worry about Sam Walters is if he can be mean enough, single minded enough, tough enough, to fullfil his physical potential.

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I think Gannon is deservedly well in front of Walters now. Hope he can kick on next season.

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Quote: KaeruJim "Yes Smithies is very good but a bit too grubby sometimes. I like Pierce-Paul, he looks a real prospect.

I'm hoping our Sam Walters will kick on next year, physically he could make himself unplayable, we just need to see that development and mentality shine through.

Think he had a rough year for personal reasons in 2021, let's hope he can get a really good pre-season behind him and push on now. Gannon has barged him this season.'"
Hopefully playing every week next season in the reserves Walters will kick on and fulfill his huge potential.

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Will dual reg be back next year? That would suit Walters better than reserve grade.

He had issues during pre season last year but slipped backwards. Physicality is slways going to be Sam's issue. Hes got the talent but has to start showing it.

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It looked like his D which was the main issue last season.

I suppose the likes of Walters, Tindall, O’Connor, Muizz still have time on their side.

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Quote: KaeruJim "It looked like his D which was the main issue last season.

I suppose the likes of Walters, Tindall, O’Connor, Muizz still have time on their side.'"
O'Connor and Muizz off contract 2022 very big year for them.

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Quote: KaeruJim "It looked like his D which was the main issue last season.

I suppose the likes of Walters, Tindall, O’Connor, Muizz still have time on their side.'"

I would say his defence was his main issue but he also needs to get himself more involved in attack.He often last season looked off the pace that could be be down to playing one week then missing five.As i said earlier playing each week should improve his all round game.

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It really is one of the most interesting seasons in prospect next year.

Myler. Dwyer, Martin, Gale, Mellor, Sutcliffe, Austin, Briscoe all with a point to prove.

Johnson, Broadbent, Gannon, Holroyd I’m confident will be better next season.

O’Connor, Muizz, Walters, Edwards, Tindall all pushing for a place around first grade.

Bentley will want to have a big year and hopefully so will Fusitu’a.

Competition for places hasn’t been this hot for a very long time. With a new voice around the place for pre-season it’ll be interesting to see how the players dig in.

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Quote: KaeruJim "It really is one of the most interesting seasons in prospect next year.

Myler. Dwyer, Martin, Gale, Mellor, Sutcliffe, Austin, Briscoe all with a point to prove.

Johnson, Broadbent, Gannon, Holroyd I’m confident will be better next season.

O’Connor, Muizz, Walters, Edwards, Tindall all pushing for a place around first grade.

Bentley will want to have a big year and hopefully so will Fusitu’a.

Competition for places hasn’t been this hot for a very long time. With a new voice around the place for pre-season it’ll be interesting to see how the players dig in.'"

Totally agree. Just got round to renewing my season ticket and can honestly say I haven't looked forward to season so much for at least a dozen years.

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Quote: ArthurClues "Totally agree. Just got round to renewing my season ticket and can honestly say I haven't looked forward to season so much for at least a dozen years.'"

I'm still not sure whether we'll be "summit" material next year, but we're certainly climbing up the mountain at the moment.

The thing for me is to see a (young) Leeds side who plays with some confidence and flair again. We shouldn't be over-confident that just getting some key players back from injury will make all the difference, clearly we were significantly behind Saints in those benchmark games. We'll need a few stars to line up in our favour, but at least we can see the potential now if it clicks.

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Quote: KaeruJim "I'm still not sure whether we'll be "summit" material next year, but we're certainly climbing up the mountain at the moment.

The thing for me is to see a (young) Leeds side who plays with some confidence and flair again. We shouldn't be over-confident that just getting some key players back from injury will make all the difference, clearly we were significantly behind Saints in those benchmark games. We'll need a few stars to line up in our favour, but at least we can see the potential now if it clicks.'"

Not so bothered about winning it, just think we are going to take a leap forward next year. Should see some great rugby, which is the main thing.

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