Something needs to be done from the club to signal to the fans, shareholders and sponsors that performances like last night are not acceptable.

Are we going to see a Hetherington email this week?

I remember Paul Wellens giving a post match interview when Saints weren’t playing well a few years ago, he was visibly upset and angry and you could tell that he at least cared and that Saints playing that way was simply not acceptable. We seem to be missing that kind of thing from our group of players at the moment, I will say I think Handley is probably the closest we have to that, he’s been at the club a while and knows what’s expected but there’s only do much he can do from the wing.

I also think Leeming understands what’s required and will be a good club captain in time.

Walker will be fine, he’s got talent and hes still young enough to kick on.

Agree on Tetevano, hes not a LF.

Just watched highlights. We also need to acknowledge what a mercurial and magical player Jake Connor is. On a completely different level to any of our players. Shame we could never snare him…….

We missed Leeming last night, he's started season well imo. Shown good leadership.

Agree. The club definitely need to do something to show that last night wasn't acceptable. At this moment in time I'd say top 4 or top 5 is very very unlikely and that is simply not good enough for a club like Leeds. I think we all agreed we'd recruited well apart from being a prop light, the coaching is not right.

What a shocker, a complete shambles. Sezer looks like he will be added to the long list of dud signings . Austin tried his best, but it’s difficult to change a game when your team mates aren’t interested. As for briscoe as I have stated several times before ,to play a poor winger in the position is suicidal. What Sean Long brings to the party is anyones guess. The attacking structure of sutcliffe and handley is woeful. The passing along the line is pedestrian to say the least. Dwyer made a break, looked back for supporting players ,only to witness the whole pack of forwards stationary some 20 yards back.
Congratulations to hull ,they came with a depleted team on a short turn around and ran us off the park. Conner is a special player fully deserved man of the match However one of his trys was an absolute walk in, a school boy team would be embarrassed by that defence. Agars after match interview was as bad as the team performance.
Looking at the coaching set up hull have Gareth Ellis we have Chev Walker. As for sacking agar , probably not at the moment. Not certain if any decent coaches are available. Definitely would would get rid of Sean Long . The mid table sides will have looked at our early seasons efforts and come to the conclusion they have nothing to fear from us. I thought the squad was good enough for a top 4 finish, sadly it’s looking extremely unlikely.

I think we can make top 4 but the change in attitude has to start now!

We have a winnable game in Friday then Saints at home. That Saints home game will IMO define our season, if the players and coaching staff cannot get themselves up for a Friday night home game against the current champions and put everything into it, theyre done for the season, a win or at least a great performance in that game could turn it around, turn uo with the pathetic attitude of last night and it will be an utter embarrassment and an insult to us fans and sponsors

It’s funny how you often see a turnaround in a clubs fortunes after the coach departs. That doesn’t mean it’s sustainable, look at Wakey post Chester last season to this, but you do get a bounce, which tells me that player attitude is usually at least part of the problem.

If Agar does go this week, then I’d expect to see that bounce against Salford, if he doesn’t and we don’t improve 300%, then it will be too late to save us from a mauling against Saints. I think by the end of the Saints game he will be gone anyway.

I was going to miss the Saints game as I was going to see Stewart Lee but tried to change the date so I could go - I was half hoping they couldn't change them but just got conformation of a switch so I can go to the game now, Im kind of wishing they couldn't have changed them

I'll go to Salford as planned but there has got to be a change in attitude otherwise I might stop going to the away games, I never thought Id say that to be honest.

Do you still think Leeds have the best pack in the league?

I wouldn`t call Hull bang average. Inconsistant is more like it.Never know which team is going to turn up.

Hull aren’t average at all, they are going through a bit of an injury crisis but finding a way to navigate through it, its no surprise they are inconsistent with constantly swapping the side around.

They came with a game plan that suited the squad and executed it, with Leeds being so poor that’s all they needed to do it’s the sign of a well coached side, i know hodgson hasn’t had a great start last year but he will be s decent coach IMO

Hull aren’t average at all, they are going through a bit of an injury crisis but finding a way to navigate through it, its no surprise they are inconsistent with constantly swapping the side around.

They came with a game plan that suited the squad and executed it, with Leeds being so poor that’s all they needed to do it’s the sign of a well coached side, i know hodgson hasn’t had a great start last year but he will be s decent coach IMO

Last night Hull had a depleted team that were absolutely there for the taking.

I'm taking nothing away from Hull performance - you can only play what you are on the field against.

But for Leeds to be at home, 0-31 down with 10 minutes to go is unforgivable.

We have Liam Sutcliffe chatting and joking with Jake Connor with 10 mins to go.

When Joe Cater was injured, we have all our players stood around hands on hips for 5 minutes. They should be in a huddle, geeing each other up.

There are a lot of well paid players at Leeds and the fans show up week in week out at least looking for some passion and entertainment. So far this season - and last - that has been totally missing. If they don't want to play for Leeds, that is fine - do a Segayaro/Merrin and play elsewhere.

I can only hope Leeming/Bentley/Newman returning helps - but all sides have injury crises and its how you deal with it.

At the moment we (Leeds) look like a Championship side. Its simply been not good enough now for too long.

Don't get me wrong, Leeds (unlike the sudden rush of Saints fans) don't have a god given right to win every week. They need to WORK for it.

But something needs to change and the only thing Leeds haven't changed is the coaching setup.

Good post, we certainly do not have a right to win ever week, ive got absolutely zero issue with us losing games, none at all as long as the team look like the are giving their all or at least trying.

Listening to the Agar interview and Luke Gales comments last night.
Gale alluding to the fact Leeds have got the players but something isn`t right.
Also saying he and Agar didn`t see eye to eye.
Is it coincidence that what many of us thought would be a pretty good half back partnership slowly becoming one of the worse in the League?
Could it be the coach is asking them to do things that they do not agree with just like Luke Gale didn`t?
I personally rated Gale and thought him and Sezer would have worked but clearly Agar had other ideas.
Full credit to Hull last night their forwards completely mullered ours.
And considering they didn`t have their first choice half backs playing makes it all the more depressing.