I'm not disagreeing. Regressed so much this year. A prop who regularly only makes five yards per carry for me is not doing the job they are picked for. Seems to enjoy a collision more than doing a job.

Cas are a well drilled team. Like someone said, they all know where they're meant to be when and the work they did on their passing in preseason has paid off. We've badly fallen off and offered nothing in attack last night. When we're crying out for someone to add a spark, a young lad with speed and no fear is left to sit on the bench. There have to be changes for next season. We have some quality youngsters but why would they want to stay and play for a guy who seems to have little faith in them

As poor a display with the ball in hand as any this season and probably most of last. Totally clueless in attack on the few occasions that we managed to hold onto the ball and the only points we scored were gifted to us. I thought the defence was pretty good and Cas were actually well contained for most of the game and were a few notches below there best. Still far too good for us.

His problem has always been his failure to develop physically. He looks exactly the same size as he did when he first came into the team. He has the skinniest legs of any prop in the game, his leg drive after contact is pathetic. Out of all the props in the squad I think he's the most dispensable, but it seems like he's the cornerstone of the pack in the coaches eyes.

I watched the full game on sky including their replays of crucial events and suggest this provided a better view than yours from behind the sticks at one end.



JJB is one of the players you regularly pick on and in this case your comment came at half time. Had you been able to see down to the other end you would have spotted JJB leading our defense with consecutive tackles and he made no handling errors all game. This is important because it was the 20 handling errors that were the main cause of our defeat.



You say he struggled to move sideways without mentioning that Sutcliffe and Briscoe lack of sideways movement cost us 12 points.

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Yes JJB did give away some penalties in the second half but he got pinged for things Cas players were getting away but that was not why we lost. He never stopped trying and IMO was full of energy till the final whistle.



From your behind the sticks view you should have spotted the awful attempt by Sutcliffe to tackle Hardaker. His other play was way below standard too. But you choose the most energetic member of the team to single out.

Yet you are as per usual after a Leeds defeat.

I didn't realise that McDermott was on the field But you think he made 20 handling errors too?

no but he again tactically failed to stop cas doing what they have done in all previous games against us. and hall at centre???

your usual attempt to absolve the coach is duly noted albeit later than normal

Your usual blame the coach mantra is also duly noted. If the players drop the ball 20 times many of them early in the sets this gifts possession and then they miss 39 tackles this is nothing to do with the coaches tactics and you know it.

and I agreed with that.

however tactically he was left wanting again. the most precocious young attacking talent in the league and he's unused. no wonder he's looking to leave. move a poor moon? no leave him. take off a useless Sutcliffe? no leave him.

he's incapable of Making in game decisions that aren't pre planned. Powell had him in his pocket again

What does make me sad is that international union is miles ahead of league at the moment. Last night in a bit of drizzle the handling was awful, unforced dropped balls are all too common in the game.

I think he should have started the youngster at FB and played Sutcliffe at centre however the poor handling will have done for any game plan as we just couldn't build any momentum at all. The players must take the blame for this one.

If we lose Jack Walker because McNumb fails to play him then I will be furious. He is destined to be a star so give him game time.



Time to ship out Briscoe too and get a replacement. I hope the rumours of Myler aren't true.

The coach has to accept blame too. Playing 1 man out rugby means the defence are dominating and up fast. With some better game plan to move the ball it would have held them back. All in all, professional players should be able to hold a ball (in not atrocious conditions) and a professional coach should be able to set up his team to offer more.



Walker is a better player than Handley so made sense to start him at fb and Sutty at centre. To not even address this during the game is poor management

Aside from the ridiculous amount of junior grade dropsies, i think we need to all get some proper perspective about this side, and its limitations. Our 2015 side was good but not great, and since we have lost two truly great players, replaced them with very little and other old players are 2 years more advanced.to top it off our world class FB came up with the game changing play against us and it was clear throughout we had nothing like that within us, just barge and hope.



We are still in a great position and in with a shot at both competitions but we no longer have the personel to believe we have a shot at beating the top sides in the big games if they are at the top of their game on the day.

Juan, you are talking absolute rubbish mate. You simply can not see some of the things that go on, on the tv, close up replays I give you, but not the full vision like you can at a game. Your biase on JJB knows no bounds, here it is completely clueless. No one is arguing with you on errors, in fact nobody is saying he wasn't rushing out, that was part of the problem he was playing his own game and leaving problems for others. He is not fit, that is clear, his arms are knackered, he can not get them round and he is flapping, do you not notice he never makes a tackle round the legs? They ran round him numerous times in that first half, and he was shoved off three times, that was why I commented at half time. That is fact, not your view that can not see it from thousands of miles away. Let me make it clear, nobody is questioning JJB's attitude and desire.



I agree with you on Sutcliffe and Briscoe who were woeful, although not necessarily the Eden try. I also think Sutcliffe was at fault with the third try where it was clear what Millington was doing, he was pointing for it, and Sutcliffe was looking right at it but didn't read it. But that is what happens when players play roles they are not up to.

This gets a bit boring to be honest. You would be 100% correct in an isolated match. But come on, how many times have we repeated this now in games? 39 missed tackles is nothing new for us this year, and neither is low percentages. If the coach can't fix that, then where does the blame really lie?

McDermott looked a broken man at the after match interviews. Looked like someone who Simply does not have the answers and the fact layers are not responding to him. I hope he realises that either he is not up to it anymore and should stand aside. Or stop being so loyal to his favourites who are clearly letting him down. If he and GH intend for him to stay in for next year they need to tell the players they are either done after this year or playing for a contract next year. Tony smith has done this at Warrington and they are well on with recruiting for next year were as we are standing still

If Hardaker, Gale and McShane were playing for Leeds, under the coaching of Powell, there may have been a different result.

Leeds' loss has been Castleford's gain.

There is no place on this board for such well thought out comments like this , stop it immediately

Your key was the coaching. Not sure putting them in this current set up would make much difference, and McShane simply isn't anything close to Parcell anyway.

Gale would improve us but generally coaching is the differencr

McShane has outplayed his opposite number parcell everytime easily this season they've met. Granted I appreciate that stems from the pack.



Would expect a ban for JJB.

No he hasn't, not at all.

He has. Every time Cas have played Leeds this year McShane has been the standout hooker. I like Parcell, good player, speed to burn, decent support player, works hard. But Macca is also having a damn good season and I wouldn't swap him for anyone. Such a good rugby brain, tough as old boots. He thoroughly deserves his England call up .